Ouchez: New attack method for DD game

[Electric Kid]

> In all the casinos I have been to, the
> dealer flips over the hole card before
> gathering the cards from the table and
> putting them in the discard tray, even when
> the heads up player busts. I believe they do
> this for the eye. I have never seen the
> dealer sweep the hole card without flipping
> it over.
> Good Luck
> Slowhand

in the Kewadin chain have this rule. You may not even be aware of this rule because if you are playing at a full table it may never happen while your are playing. When a casino posts their rules they seen to leave this one off their list.

[Coug Fan]

I would never advocate cheating, but if a player managed to hold-out a couple aces and then introduce them into a new DD game, they could greatly increase their EV. It seems like a cheater would be much more likely to get away with this sort of thing since there isn't a full accounting for all of the cards played.

Also, hole card play would be harder to detect (it always looks weird to hit a hard 17 vs a 9 up, but it looks more suspect when you can confirm that the player only hits that hand if the dealer has a 9-A in the hole).

[Ouchez]

[Parker]

> I would never advocate cheating, but if a
> player managed to hold-out a couple aces and
> then introduce them into a new DD game, they
> could greatly increase their EV. It seems
> like a cheater would be much more likely to
> get away with this sort of thing since there
> isn't a full accounting for all of the cards
> played.

> Also, hole card play would be harder to
> detect (it always looks weird to hit a hard
> 17 vs a 9 up, but it looks more suspect when
> you can confirm that the player only hits
> that hand if the dealer has a 9-A in the
> hole).

This is why the practice was abandoned in Nevada, and more recently in the Californa casinos.

It was supposed to be a counter counter-measure, but it creates all sorts of other problems with game integrity.

Furthermore, it is no real impediment to counting.