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Viktor Nacht: Now 14px, any better? - V *NM*
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Parker: Seeing changes
> I don't see much difference.
> Don
I had to re-boot my browser before I was able to see the new font size.
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Parker: And . . .
> Message area is now much wider and little taller, and the
> Subject has been expanded from 50 maximum characters to 75.
> Basically I just copied Bj21.
> Let me know what you think.
And the logo is back on the left, where it looks so much better (IMNSHO).
Thanks!
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Bettie: One or the Other
Guys, which would you prefer ? the number of posts listed by the forum or a faster-loading navbar? You can't have both since it's the post-numbering feature that slows the navbar down, so we'd like to get some input on which is more important to you.
Thanks,
Bettie
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Saboteur: Coupla thoughts
I love the idea of being able to see which forums have new posts. However, if the loading speed of the nav-bar is being slowed by the counting of the new posts, then I'd suggest that we settle for the next best thing:
If a cookie records the date and time of the last visit, then it might be sufficient to simply flag those forums which have new content without going to the trouble of actually counting how many new posts there are. Once a forum has been flagged as having new content, the forum's title (in the nav-bar on the left) could be displayed in a boldface font, or in a different color. We can find out how many new posts exist in each forum once we actually navigate to that forum.
If such a method is feasible, then you've reduced the amount of time the nav-bar takes to load because the process doesn't involve thumbing through every post in every forum. The search for new posts in a forum stops once one new post has been found there.
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Sun Runner: Agree ..
> The loading of the side bar is slow but not terribly so, thank
> god I'm on cable, I can't imagine how long it would take on dial
> up. BUT.... having the message count on the side bar is worth
> the additional few seconds it takes to load the sidbar.
But I'm on Cable also and am using Mozilla. Personally (selfishly) I agree with Caarulo and would chose some new message indicator over a small loss in speed.
I like the smaller font! I'm sure that's a loser though!!
To reiterate, if Saboteur's idea is doable, I would not need to see the 'count', just an indicator (as he said BOLD highlight maybe) would be good enough.
Keep up the good work!
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Sun Runner: Cool.
> Could be larger but I just hold down Ctrl and scroll my mouse
> wheel and hey presto ...
Thanks! I learn something here everyday!!
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Sun Runner: I feel like I'm at the eye doctor ..
.. "this better, or this?"
"This, or this?
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Don Schlesinger: Perfect idea!
Yes, some indication that there is at least one new post is all that's needed, in my opinion. The number of new posts is really irrelevant, because, if you're like me, as long as there's one, you're going to open the page.
Don
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Don Schlesinger: Yes! But a new problem
Especially after I hit "Ctrl+"! :-)
But now, I'm finding a different problem: In the response, message box, I'm now getting a horizontal scroll bar that was never there before, and it's there even if I don't enlarge the font as you supply it. And that it very, very annoying and was never a problem with the old board.
Don
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Viktor Nacht: Re: Coupla thoughts
It's worth a try. I've removed the counting loop and replaced it with a simple logic comparison.
I don't personally see much improvement with speed, which I expected (no improvement), since the delay seems to be a problem with most browsers. Almost all browsers have some kind of strange lag when calling to an in-line external script lib.
So unless you see some kind of radical improvement, we might switch back to the counting one. Let me know.
Good Cards,
V
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Viktor Nacht: Re: Yes! But a new problem
> But now, I'm finding a different problem: In the response,
> message box, I'm now getting a horizontal scroll bar that was
> never there before, and it's there even if I don't enlarge the
> font as you supply it. And that it very, very annoying and was
> never a problem with the old board.
I don't understand. Is anyone else having the same problem and explain it? - V
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Cacarulo: Re: Need Feedback on New Look of Boards
How about a refresh of the number of unseen messages? This can be done automatically (only with the left frame) or whenever we click on that frame. Is it possible or we need to reload the whole page?
Font's size looks much better now.
Sincerely,
Cac
> Dear Friends,
> As you can see I was a busy beaver last night. I also made some
> changes to the forum software. They are all experimental, and
> subject to change based on your feedback and suggestions.
> Feel free to post or email any comments you have, but we would
> like specific feedback on the following issues:
> 1. Is the font too small? It's currently set to 12px (basically
> 12pt) Arial. Should we try 13px? Don hates it, so you can become
> his best friend by hating it too.
> 2. The new message count function REALLY slows down the loading
> of the sidebar. If you're using Safari on a Mac, it's like
> watching paint dry underwater. On the PC, it's not too bad, and
> it's pretty quick on either platform with Firefox.
> The problem is that we're using forum software from the Internet
> stone age, before flannel became haute couture, so in order to
> do this, your browser has to send a request to the forum
> software for a new message count for each forum separately
> through Javascript. So it can range from "not to bad"
> to "downright pokey," depending on the speed of your
> computer the busyness of the site.
> Also, we can't easily extend it to Don's Domain, since it would
> pop-up a bunch of browser authentication errors for non-members.
> If everyone loves the new message count, I can see what I can
> do, but it's a big job.
> So too summarize, is it too slow for you to be useful or do you
> like it?
> 3. The exact behavior of how the new message checking affects
> your board cookies is unclear to me, so I'll be watching it.
> 4. Do you like the logo on the right or back on the left?
> That's it for now. Let us know what you think.
> Good Cards,
> V
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