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Thread: Sonny: How do I determine co-variance?

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    Sonny
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    Sonny: How do I determine co-variance?

    I am trying to recreate table 2.1 "Standard Deviation By Number of Decks" from BJA (p 23 in the 2nd Ed). Everything is pretty straightforward except for the "Var+(h-1)*Cov" column. The "Var" and "h-1" parts are pretty simple, but how do I determine the co-variance?

    From the examples it seems to be roughly 0.5, but I was hoping for a more accurate answer.

    -Sonny-

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: How do I determine co-variance?

    > I am trying to recreate table 2.1
    > "Standard Deviation By Number of
    > Decks" from BJA (p 23 in the 2nd Ed).
    > Everything is pretty straightforward except
    > for the "Var+(h-1)*Cov" column.
    > The "Var" and "h-1"
    > parts are pretty simple, but how do I
    > determine the co-variance?

    > From the examples it seems to be roughly
    > 0.5, but I was hoping for a more accurate
    > answer.

    Here's the best I can do for you, directly from Griffin, p. 142: "From simulated hands I estimate the covariance of two blackjack hands played at the same table to be .50."

    Wong, on pp. 202-203 of "Pro BJ," discusses covariance and gives 0.47 for his benchmark game and 0.48, when DAS is permitted.

    I'm reasonably certain he used simulation as well.

    Don

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    Sonny
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    Sonny: Good enough for me. Thanks Don *NM*


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    covariance
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    covariance: Re: How do I determine co-variance?

    > I'm reasonably certain he used simulation as
    > well.
    > Don
    Maybe but... how can we use simulation for covariance? How can we get the result?
    Thanks

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: How do I determine co-variance?

    > Maybe but... how can we use simulation for
    > covariance? How can we get the result?

    You play two hands at a time vs. the same dealer's upcard and catalog the results: How many times do the results of the two hands wind up being identical? How many times are they different?

    Don

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