Mr. X: On Penetration

Don Schlesinger · 10-31-2002, 08:24 PM

> The World's Greatest Blackjack Simulation in
> your Blackjack Attack
> provides some insight into this issue but
> does not answer the question because the bet
> spreads in one deck are limited. (It does
> show that the early work of Uston and Snyder
> on acceptable one deck pen. is erroneous.)
> The question is a good one because it
> emphasizes the issue of undealt cards in
> evaluating penetration instead of using
> percentages which are misleading. For
> example, is 50% percentage in one deck bad?
> Is the Barbary Coast (2 deck, DAS, 50% pen.)
> really a burn joint?

Giving values in a void (26 cards left undealt) is like giving a partial football score: "Notre Dame 17, . . ." It is quite meaningless. I said the question wasn't really a good one because, at least for live casinos, "all else" is never equal for comparing SD and shoe games. the rules are usually much better for shoes, and the spreads you can get away with are vastly wider than for SD games.

So, although I stand by my answer above, in real life, I'd run to the shoe game.

Don

Don Schlesinger · 10-31-2002, 08:27 PM

> The first time you ordered me about like
> that would also be the last time.

Foolish comment. Parker is the administrator of the site, and only he can make such changes. I was the first, obviously, to point out to him what needed to be done. We work together here.

You're not at bj21; don't act like you are.

Don

Pro Player · 11-01-2002, 01:39 AM

all I can say is, I hope you guys don't all of a sudden condense free pages (in this case Parker Pages) into ONE page because you think you can increase profits.
Sure they say it's becuase of the flamers, but my theory is they wanted this all along.

Anyways, I think better of you guys here at advantageplayer.com so I don't see you guys pulling a stunt like that anytime soon

Don Schlesinger · 11-01-2002, 07:18 AM

> Remember, I am assuming all else being equal
> - rules, bet spreads, etc.

We remember, but it's an unreasonable, unrealistic assumption.

5.5/6 IS better than 26/52, because, in real life, I can spread 1-12, 1-16, or maybe even 1-24, with the the shoe game, while 1-4 will probably get me kicked out of the SD game.

Don

Igor · 11-01-2002, 01:07 PM

Mr. X · 11-01-2002, 01:34 PM

Courtesy of Parker and Don's help, I've registered variants of my handle.
My handle is somewhat common, I see it on several different financial threads I follow. Most people here won't run into the problem, and, unlike the Cellini imposters, there was no intentional malice here, it's just a common name.
But it's good advice to register variants if there's a chance someone can come close to your handle. Just go to "edit profile" above and do it yourself.
Now, Parker, vacuum my living room, dust, and have dinner ready by 8PM.