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    Am I the only one tired of reading this crap? I think we all know what's going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookets View Post
    Am I the only one tired of reading this crap? I think we all know what's going on here.
    Crap? No, a customer stated a concern (without specific detail) and I would like to find out the issue to see if I can help. As to the rumor someone spread, yes I was hacked. A person I trusted was behind it and I want to make one thing very clear, I am not selling the CAA book; only the notes. If anyone has purchased my notes and is dissatisifed, I want to know their questions; so I can answer them and correct any weak areas in future printings of my notes. It should also be pointed out, that some area's of CAA are weak unless you have full information (like Mississippi Stud). JG's info on ultimate Texas hold'em was weak in my opinion, as was his info on visual ballistics in roulette (though I explain why it is mainly a camouflage effort once you spot an opportunity).

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    ccounter, this may sound trite, but you only get one chance to make a first impression. It would have been difficult to create a worse impression. You can hardly blame people here for not expressing a feeling of trust.
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    ur full of **** CC... I will be one of many happy posters here when you give up and stop posting on this board... no one is going to trust you or believe a word you say going forward.. better to go bye bye and be a lurcker


    how would you like it if we resold your porn movies for a profit... would be a pretty ****ty thing to do... if you truly have all the knowledge you say you have go out and play and make ur money that way... by the way.. ur notes are terrible so im assuming that's why u came on here to pump them up cause you do not know have the knowledge, skills, or network to make any real money, prob better stick to porn.... we know your good at F*&cking people

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallcapgrowth View Post
    if you truly have all the knowledge you say you have go out and play and make ur money that way... by the way.. ur notes are terrible so im assuming that's why u came on here to pump them up cause you do not know have the knowledge, skills, or network to make any real money, prob better stick to porn...
    If you bought my notes prior to 2013, then I understand your concern; that's why I completely revised the notes at the beginning of 2013 (I was not satisfied, after the revision I am now satisfied.) The notes I used to sell on the 2000 edition were fine, but the 2000 edition only has a few actual plays I use frequently. I only post in defense, if this thread dies then I have no need to post here again. As for my ability, using dice control I have turned $100 into $4000 on two occasions (betting only on my roll), turned $10 into $300-900 on 3 occasions and had half hour long rolls on numerous occasions. A few times I came to the casino with points and a coupon and turned it into a few hundred dollars. As for card counting, I can usually make a few hundred in a short session (I put a little more into it, since the edge is more predictable), I turned $100 into $1100 in 3 days last time I was in Vegas. As I said, I mainly play as a hobby. I have only returned to defend my notes, which is what Norm stated I should do when he suspended me. If this thread ends, then I have no need to post again.

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    You are digging a deeper hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccounter View Post
    If you bought my notes prior to 2013, then I understand your concern; that's why I completely revised the notes at the beginning of 2013 (I was not satisfied, after the revision I am now satisfied.) The notes I used to sell on the 2000 edition were fine, but the 2000 edition only has a few actual plays I use frequently. I only post in defense, if this thread dies then I have no need to post here again. As for my ability, using dice control I have turned $100 into $4000 on two occasions (betting only on my roll), turned $10 into $300-900 on 3 occasions and had half hour long rolls on numerous occasions. A few times I came to the casino with points and a coupon and turned it into a few hundred dollars. As for card counting, I can usually make a few hundred in a short session (I put a little more into it, since the edge is more predictable), I turned $100 into $1100 in 3 days last time I was in Vegas. As I said, I mainly play as a hobby. I have only returned to defend my notes, which is what Norm stated I should do when he suspended me. If this thread ends, then I have no need to post again.
    What do you consider to be the long run? Do you give it any significance?

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    You should be sending all those that bought the crap prior to 2013 a free upgrade. The would be your testimonial. The only people on this site that have your notes seem to want refunds. That is all the testimonial I need to know. This site has quite a few expert APs and many are the ones complaining about your notes. No one has come out to defend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccounter View Post
    As for my ability, using dice control I have turned $100 into $4000 on two occasions (betting only on my roll), turned $10 into $300-900 on 3 occasions and had half hour long rolls on numerous occasions. ...As for card counting, I can usually make a few hundred in a short session..., I turned $100 into $1100 in 3 days last time I was in Vegas.
    This may be what Norm had in mind as digging a deeper hole. Anyone beyond the point of being a rank novice at card counting should know that it's a weak edge, that variance dominates in the short run, and that short term results are meaningless. No one can "usually make a few hundred in a short session." The best counter in the world will win SLIGHTLY more often than losing. The situation with dice influence is similar, after giving practitioners the benefit of the doubt and accepting that they can achieve the modest level of influence that they claim. A person claiming to be able to usually win from a short session at one these plays will not be accepted here, and does not deserve to be accepted, as a credible source of valuable information on gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccounter View Post
    As for my ability, using dice control I have turned $100 into $4000 on two occasions (betting only on my roll), turned $10 into $300-900 on 3 occasions and had half hour long rolls on numerous occasions. A few times I came to the casino with points and a coupon and turned it into a few hundred dollars. As for card counting, I can usually make a few hundred in a short session (I put a little more into it, since the edge is more predictable), I turned $100 into $1100 in 3 days last time I was in Vegas.
    If I book a profit a few times using a voodoo system, does that mean the system is legit?

    ROI and EV over the long run are what matter, not winning sessions. The way you present your supposed skill doesn't sound like the way an AP would.

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    deviating away from the arguement, beyondcounting.com site advertises you can buy the caa book, is this correct? Before i place an order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by max85 View Post
    deviating away from the arguement, beyondcounting.com site advertises you can buy the caa book, is this correct? Before i place an order?
    That is an old link, it won't work.
    "One of these days in your travels, you are going to come across a guy with a nice brand new deck of cards, and this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the Jack of Spades jump out of the deck and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not take this bet, for if you do, as sure as you are standing there, you are going to end up with an ear full of cider."

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    ah yes, i followed the checkout, then sent an email to register my interest in purchasing the material.

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