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    He kept arranging the Qs to but behind but how it enabled the blackjack but not Qs come out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Cards prearragement.
    At least you did work that out LOL. I doubt surveillance in Macau casinos have.
    I agree that under normal circumstances this is not possible, but it does prove that there are vulnerabilities with the One2Six (not sure if this same thing can be done with the ShuffleMaster due to the OCR technology), which in my opinion should be enough cause for concern.

    Not a honest way to promote to the youtube viewers or sutdents/prestudents, because he cannot do the same thing in real casino.
    These guys are indeed rather unethical, but if they do manage to distract some of the utterly clueless upper management that we got here in Macau, they get a reward from me.

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    This 126 is 2nd generation? Or 4th?

    However if by number of cards and prearrangement in casino they also can wait for the combinations of the discard plus cards to match? Maybe not 1 round but play one full day for 3 blackjacks?

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    @Iwantmoney Honestly I have no clue which (generation) machine was used. It is just that without any hint it took me 6 hours to work out what is happening and I know that some casinos in Macau still have no clue, this all got me laughing big time.
    @Peterlee How did you find out?

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    Team A:
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    Quote Originally Posted by acw View Post
    ...but if they do manage to distract some of the utterly clueless upper management that we got here in Macau, they get a reward from me.
    Team A also made a video on youtube to show something they cannot do it in a casino without cards prearrangemnt.
    A member complained the team, once asked him to do something illegal in casino without informing him it is against the law.

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    They got a clear boundary from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwantmoney View Post
    This 126 is 2nd generation? Or 4th?

    However if by number of cards and prearrangement in casino they also can wait for the combinations of the discard plus cards to match? Maybe not 1 round but play one full day for 3 blackjacks?
    Usually we call it 3rd generation.

    [they also can wait...]
    Not in the age of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acw View Post
    @Peterlee How did you find out?
    I teach my students

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Team A also made a video on youtube to show something they cannot do it in a casino without cards prearrangemnt.
    A member complained the team, once asked him to do something illegal in casino without informing him it is against the law.
    Gosh, I am completely lost here.

    Are you trying to say that those guys that supposedly did something naughty in MBS, have been promoting themselves on Youtube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    I teach my students
    And casinos are too dumb to employ you in order to find out what they really need to know. GREAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibolobob View Post
    peterlee do you have PM's turned off?
    If you or anyone else would like to PM me with information on CSM's I'm sure I could return the favor with other advantage plays

    Can anyone explain what exactly advantage the team gained?

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    You know what I felt strange? Why they had such a big team for a straightforward game? According to the reports 9 people together they will need to split profits plus crowd the table won’t they

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    M'sian man, 45, arrested for suspected use of device to record Baccarat game at Marina Bay Sands casino - Mothership.SG - News from Singapore, Asia and around the world

    According to court documents, Chai is accused of being engaged in a conspiracy with eight others
    I desperately want to get my hands on those documents.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrkent View Post
    Can anyone explain what exactly advantage the team gained?
    It would be completely inappropriate to come forward with anything that may have given them some sort of an advantage not knowing exactly of what they have been accused of in the first place.

    From what the press so far has been saying is that a device (maybe just a mobile phone) was used and that surveillance got them immediately (maybe even before a single bet was placed). I do not consider it impossible that these guys were just bragging in a chat group how they were going to beat the house or even worse some were just scamming others and they got caught on something that would have never worked anyhow.

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