Casino Verite - "Real Pivot"

[DSchles]

I switched to truncate TC division. As expected a running -1 doesn't floor to a true -1.

You meant to write "truncate." Any reason why you want to switch to the less accurate truncate over flooring?

Don

[seedandfeed]

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. I might be misunderstanding what you're trying to illustrate, though. Sorry.

You meant to write "truncate."

When I have true count conversion set to floor, a running -1 divided by 6, floors to a true -1.
When I have true count conversion set to truncate, a running -1, divided by 6, does not floor to -1. TC is 0.
Thus when I switch to the truncate TC division option, as expected, a running -1 doesn't floor to a true -1.
Maybe that's a weird way to say it, but I'm more familiar with the term floor than truncate.

Floor
floor (2).jpg

Truncate
truncate.jpg

Any reason why you want to switch to the less accurate truncate over flooring?

Suppose that someone were playing a 1,000 deck shoe, and the running count dropped to -1. I would imagine that -1/1000 ~= TC0 is a more accurate statement than -1/1000 ~= TC-1.

Ultimately though, I use it because that's what BJA teaches. It's kind of the lingua franca for test-outs and practicing with others, so I adopted it. For what it's worth, they also use truncate for the deck estimation divisor. I originally learned rounding deck estimation because I started with casino verite and switched over to truncate for the same reason.

Thanks
seedandfeed

[DSchles]

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. I might be misunderstanding what you're trying to illustrate, though. Sorry.



When I have true count conversion set to floor, a running -1 divided by 6, floors to a true -1.
When I have true count conversion set to truncate, a running -1, divided by 6, does not floor to -1. TC is 0.
Thus when I switch to the truncate TC division option, as expected, a running -1 doesn't floor to a true -1.
Maybe that's a weird way to say it, but I'm more familiar with the term floor than truncate.

Floor
floor (2).jpg

Truncate
truncate.jpg



Suppose that someone were playing a 1,000 deck shoe, and the running count dropped to -1. I would imagine that -1/1000 ~= TC0 is a more accurate statement than -1/1000 ~= TC-1.

Ultimately though, I use it because that's what BJA teaches. It's kind of the lingua franca for test-outs and practicing with others, so I adopted it. For what it's worth, they also use truncate for the deck estimation divisor. I originally learned rounding deck estimation because I started with casino verite and switched over to truncate for the same reason.

Thanks
seedandfeed

You use for playing whatever was used to create the indices in the first place. If you're truncating, why would you be discussing what the index does or doesn't FLOOR to? You're confused and are overthinking this.

[seedandfeed]

Any reason why you want to switch to the less accurate truncate over flooring?

What makes truncate less accurate than flooring *for true count division?