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    A round end up with a big card more often, so the running count changes to negative more often after the first round. This is confirmed by computer simulation.
    Did not go further study, so have no idea what happen on the further hands.
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    Some studies on continue shuffle machine, claim that CSM can low down the house edge. Their simulation is based on the first round of a shoe game conditions, but not a continue shuffling conditions. I wonder their results are based on the wrong assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    so the running count changes to negative more often after the first round. This is confirmed by computer simulation.
    I would think RC would be equally likely to jump or down after first round. What would make it biased to go down on first round?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post
    Some studies on continue shuffle machine, claim that CSM can low down the house edge.
    What does this mean? Are you saying CSM actually lowers house edge? I would think the machines would do opposite, by preventing the unseen cards composition from ever favoring the player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    I would think RC would be equally likely to jump or down after first round. What would make it biased to go down on first round?

    A no hole card game, dealer takes the last card before finishing the hand. The last card is a High card, more often then it is a Low card…Do you agree?

    What does this mean? Are you saying CSM actually lowers house edge? I would think the machines would do opposite, by preventing the unseen cards composition from ever favoring the player.
    Google CSM lower house edge. Millions of links come out to tell "CSM blackjack with more decks of cards actually lowers the house edge by 0.014%"... or something like that.
    And I doubt about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterlee View Post

    Google CSM lower house edge. Millions of links come out to tell "CSM blackjack with more decks of cards actually lowers the house edge by 0.014%"... or something like that.
    And I doubt about this.
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    CSMs have no cut card effect. The cut card effect increases house edge.
    My inutition or logic is apparently flawed on this subject. Quick example of my thought process though-

    A BS player and counter sit and play a six deck shoe. There will be times the counter counts say a TC +5. This would swing the advantage to the counters favor.
    In theory, the BS player would also have the edge the counter has (they are playing the same shoe).
    His problem though is that he is blind to it. So he never gets to properly take advantage of the edge by raising his bets wheras the counter can.
    Is this true???

    So my above logic (possibly flawed as well) had me thinking that since the CSM would prevent the card composition from ever favoring the player,
    it wouldn't lower the house edge, but keep it flat or raise it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChoo View Post
    What does this mean? Are you saying CSM actually lowers house edge?
    CSMs have no cut card effect. The cut card effect increases house edge.
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