I want to thank Gronbog for his hard work with the sims.
I am attachexd a PDF with another way to look at the sim results.
For play all, the HL w 7m9c captures over (1/3)rd of the gain over the HL if HO2 w ASC is used.
For back counting, the HL w 7m9c captures over (1/2)rd of the gain over the HL if HO2 w ASC is used.
This is all done without having to learn a new count system or new indices.
All of the counters I meet use the HL and refuse to switch from the HL as they like it, it is easy for them to use and they do not want to get confused learning a new count and making mistakes. It is for these hard core HL players that I wanted to suggest an easy side count to help improve the HL.
So if LS is offered and no side bets are offered where other side counts my help with, using 7m9c for just the top 6 strategy changes and for betting gives a significant improvement with the HL with very little additional work.
So now that you know the performance of the HL, the HL player can determine whether he wans o use the 7m9c with the HL.
Remember, 7m9c does not help with insurance or hard 16 v T, the two most important strategy changes. Without help with these core strategy changes, the 7m9c was doomed not to outperform the HO2 w ASC.
But again, my goal was to improve the HL with a simple side count and the HO2 w ASC was used as a yard stick to see how much improvement there is.
Also I used only the top 6 HL w 7m9c strategy changes. There are more strategy changes which would improve the results of HL w 7m9c but that is just for theoretical interest as I wanted to keep the system as simple as possible with only the top 6 strategy changes. I am just mentioning this as the HO2 w ASC uses all strategy changes and I have limited the help that the 7m9c does with the HL to just the top 6 strategy changes. The increase would not be significant with these extra strategy changes but I just wanted to mention this anyhow.
Gronbog emailed me that he would be willing to do other sims if readers are interested.
I had mentioned HL with Am6c as a candidate for another sim. Am6c helps with insurance and hard 16 v 7, 8, 9, T hit/stand decisions and hard 16 surrender decisions. So Am6c help with decision that 7m9c does not help with. Of course Am6c does not help with betting and only playing strategy. But if LS is not offered, then Am6c might be considered as simple side count to help the HL player.
For the two deck game, I would never suggested an unbalanced count like the KO. A two deck game should use only balanced counts. And in two deck play all games, PE is more important than BE. And I would assume that LS is not offered in two deck games which would make using 7m9c not a good alternative. So fore the two deck game, I would suggest for the HL player to keep HL with Am6c.
So if there is interest in the sim results of HL w Am6c please reply to this thread. If there is sufficient interest, Gronbog said he would do sims.
If both 7m9c and Am6c were used with the HL then my prediction is that HL w 7m9c and Am6c would come close to the HO2 w ASC. But that is using two side counts with the HL which most players would probably balk at as they want to use just one simple side count with the HL.
Finally, I was very intrigued by other players who talked about Tarzan's count that beats the HO2 w ASC. I am just curious what the Tarzan count is.
If someone knows that Tarzan count, can they post it to this thread.
Thanks,
HL w 7m9c vs HO2 w ASC.pdf
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