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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    I would argue that: yes, there is a "right" answer here. Several actually!
    -If one is to branch out to shoe games, consider increasing betting efficiency: HOII w BASC (if you want to play pitch games as well) or Wong Halves.
    So you are suggesting Wong's Halves for a shoe game which is a complicated level 3 count. It has 99% BC but the PE is not good at all.

    The users or this forum do not like my KO with AA89mTc and 5m7c primarily because of AA89mTc which they think is hard to use.

    Also as correctly pointed out, for the shoe game, betting efficiency is more important than playing efficiency. AA89mTc helps with PE but if you want a simpler system then ignore AA89mTc and just use KO with 5m7c for the shoe game. You will lose a significant amount of playing strategy gain, mostly insurance and hit/stand on hard 12 v 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 but you will have ae much simpler system if just KO with 5m7c is used. If Lucky Ladies is offered, I would definitely keep AA89mTc with KO but assuming no side bets then consider just KO with 5m7c as a possible count system for the shoe game.

    Again, I do not consider keeping AA89mTc hard, I posted some simplifying ways to keep AA89mTc, Carla has no problem with AA89mTc and another counter I taught it to had no problem with it. No one complained about KO with AA89mTc until I posted it on this forum and I am shocked that people on this forum think it is hard.

    At any rate, if you want extreme simplicity then I would suggest the KO with 5m7c as the only side count. That is much simpler than Wong's Halves as there are two level one counts and the 5m7c is very simple and can be kept in your head and there are also some playing strategy gains from 5m7c mostly when player has a hard 15 and hard 16 for both hit/stand and surrender.

    If surrender is offered, I believe that the KO with 5m7c will come close to the HO2 w ASC. And you have to admit the KO is simple and the 5m7c is simple and the KO with 5m7c system is simpler than Wong's Halves and HO2 w ASC.

    KO with 5m7c absolutely will beat Wong's Halves and my prediction is that the KO with 5m7c will come close to HO2 w ASC for the back counted Late Surrender shoe game.
    Last edited by bjanalyst; 04-01-2019 at 09:28 AM.

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