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  1. 01-01-2019, 06:05 PM #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    I was backed off from T.I's S17 DD game spreading only 1-4 in green, while a bunch of guys next to me who were blatantly going from min bets to black played uninterrupted.
    You were all evaluated. As long as the bet spreading ploppies didn’t shot take, and continued with their likely sub par play - they were safe.
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  2. 01-01-2019, 06:08 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    You were all evaluated. As long as the bet spreading ploppies didn’t shot take, and continued with their likely sub par play - they were safe.
    They were counting. In fact, they approached me after the back off to ask me what happened and confirmed they were also counting. I probably shouldn't have remained at the table with them once I identified them as counters - my mistake. This happened exactly 11 months ago, though, so I think I'd be safe to return. The only bad thing is they took note of my passport details (I foolishly gave it to them earlier on in the session after being asked at the tables. Not being from the USA, I'm not sure what the deal is with handing over ID at the tables when asked.) Should that in itself be a concern? Does T.I share info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    They were counting. In fact, they approached me after the back off to ask me what happened and confirmed they were also counting. I probably shouldn't have remained at the table with them once I identified them as counters - my mistake. This happened exactly 11 months ago, though, so I think I'd be safe to return. The only bad thing is they took note of my passport details (I foolishly gave it to them earlier on in the session after being asked at the tables. Not being from the USA, I'm not sure what the deal is with handing over ID at the tables when asked.) Should that in itself be a concern? Does T.I share info?
    Maybe you acted like a counter! Moved your lips, used chips to side count, while the others were counting drunk. Any number of factors.

    As far as the passport issue us concerned, we all do dumb things at times. Even Zee is learning fr9m his transgressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Maybe you acted like a counter! Moved your lips, used chips to side count, while the others were counting drunk.
    Actually, quite the opposite. I had ordered a number of drinks (I can tolerate alcohol very well). I was playing the drunk act. They were just blatantly going from min to max. Perhaps they hadn't been there long enough for an evaluation. I had been playing for 3 days straight, albeit on the H17 game. The back off happened as soon as I moved to S17, within an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    The back off happened as soon as I moved to S17, within an hour.
    It sounds like they watch the S17 game and not so much the H17 game. That can be useful info. Can anyone else confirm this hypothesis?
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  6. 01-01-2019, 08:12 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    It sounds like they watch the S17 game and not so much the H17 game. That can be useful info. Can anyone else confirm this hypothesis?

    Nah, they had 3 days to watch his play, didn’t care about his tight spread on H17, which he likely beat, considered his beat8 * the lower edge S17 even more and took counter measures.

    If he played the drunk act, ........... well maybe they would take exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz84 View Post
    and confirmed they were also counting.
    Doesn't mean they were doing it correctly or with an edge. Nobody playing a winning game lasts at TI.
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