6:5 Blackjack

[cc12b]

I went to a pit boss and asked him why they did this? He didn’t know. I then asked him why would anybody play a 6:5 table when a 3:2 table was right next to it with the same min. He couldn’t answer this question either.

Do you expected him to tell the truth if he has known the right answer? How about the H E on slots and many other carnival games like Mississippi stud, UTH, 3cards poker to name a few. I wish G man's noble fight have good result but I doubt casinos would change that as long as majority of casino goers keep playing it. This subject has many people addressed on many websites and medias, included this one, since 6/5 just surfaced. At mean time if someone find out the way to beat it then best wishes to him/her.

[Dbs6582]

Do you expected him to tell the truth if he has known the right answer? How about the H E on slots and many other carnival games like Mississippi stud, UTH, 3cards poker to name a few. I wish G man's noble fight have good result but I doubt casinos would change that as long as majority of casino goers keep playing it. This subject has many people addressed on many websites and medias, included this one, since 6/5 just surfaced. At mean time if someone find out the way to beat it then best wishes to him/her.

Hey cc12b I was the one taking to the pit critter. We were just having a causal conversation about several things. He was standing alone not doing anything and I was standing around also not doing much so I struck up a conversation with him. It wasn’t any intense discussion on this matter. I was asking it more as a rhetorical question. I didn’t expect him to have the answer. I just asked him if it made any sense why someone would play on a 6:5 table while a 3:2 table was close by. He agreed it made no sense to him. We had a good conversation about several things, even national politics and football. It’s always good to stay in the good graces of pit critters.

[Sharky]

Hey cc12b I was the one taking to the pit critter....so I struck up a conversation with him.....

Ah...you missed your chance to ask about your "fixed demand" theory where casino profits are the same with 50% pen...shucks

[Dbs6582]

Ah...you missed your chance to ask about your "fixed demand" theory where casino profits are the same with 50% pen...shucks

You’re wrong. I did bring that up with him. Since it’s a casino that is quite a ways from my house that I don’t frequent much I touched on that topic too. We actually debated which was a better way for them to increase profits? Should they move the cut card further back or move all their tables to 6:5? Both accomplish the same purpose...they extract money from poppies faster.

I told him the two aren’t mutually exclusive. They could really increase profits by moving the cut card further back and also take all their tables to 6:5 at same time. He liked that idea, but I don’t think he’s at any level to make that kind of decision. I told him in jest I was just there to help his casino make more money. Lol

This does brings up another good point. If APs are so concerned about casinos making more money, why are they for moving the cut card further back but not for 6:5?

[Sharky]

.... If APs are so concerned about casinos making more money, why are they for moving the cut card further back but not for 6:5?

seriously???...perhaps one is AP pro, the other AP con

[Dbs6582]

seriously???...perhaps one is AP pro, the other AP con

Preciously, you caught my point! If that’s the case (which I think everybody agrees), let’s not pretend we want the casinos to move the cut card further back because we care about the casinos making more money. I see APs making this argument all the time in books and forums all the way back to Ken Uston’s days. The fact is we want the cut card further back because it benefits us, just like having all the tables be 3:2.

Also, it’s a double standard to say we want the casino to move the cut card further back so they can take the ploppy’s money faster ...and hopefully more of it. But then I see APs say that 6:5 is bad for the caisno since it’ll take the ploppy’s money so fast they won’t play bj again.

Which is it? Do we want the casinos to take the ploppy’s money fast or slow? It seems like we can’t make up our mind.

As for me, I can’t control what a casino does so I just play the best games I can find. The casinos are going to do what they do.

[Sharky]

Preciously, you caught my point! If that’s the case (which I think everybody agrees),

U r right on, man....you are really onto something with this "fixed demand" concept...this is noble prize worthy for sure...keep up the research

[Dbs6582]

U r right on, man....you are really onto something with this "fixed demand" concept...this is noble prize worthy for sure...keep up the research

Hey Sharky, where did I say I was doing any research on “fixed demand”? I could care less what you believe. If you want to believe moving the cut card further back will generate more demand and make the casinos more money, go ahead. It doesn’t bother me. I’ve just never understood why this cut card belief is so important to people in the AP community. The casinos will put the cut card where they put it. It’s up to us to decide if we want to play their games. If I don’t like their games, I don’t play them.

[Freightman]

As for me, I can’t control what a casino does so I just play the best games I can find. The casinos are going to do what they do.

Ahhhh, im confused. Didn’t you just say yesterday that you played a lot of 6:5. Oh right....of course........ you simmed your 6:5
Game with a SCORE exceeding 100.

[BoSox]

You’re wrong. I did bring that up with him. Since it’s a casino that is quite a ways from my house that I don’t frequent much I touched on that topic too. We actually debated which was a better way for them to increase profits? Should they move the cut card further back or move all their tables to 6:5? Both accomplish the same purpose...they extract money from poppies faster.

I told him the two aren’t mutually exclusive. They could really increase profits by moving the cut card further back and also take all their tables to 6:5 at same time. He liked that idea, but I don’t think he’s at any level to make that kind of decision. I told him in jest I was just there to help his casino make more money. Lol

This does brings up another good point. If APs are so concerned about casinos making more money, why are they for moving the cut card further back but not for 6:5?

I really have to stop reading your post, as all they do is cause aggravation.

[21forme]

I really have to stop reading your post, as all they do is cause aggravation.

I only see them when someone quotes them and I still don't read them.

[Zach Black]

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