Casino cheating threads

[Three]

Norm, whether or not you consider someone credible the story was substantiated by an established member who was profiting "as well as alleged unknown others who became upset" because of the fact. Are you ignoring this information, or are you implying Three is also not credible?

The games are not close to me. I rarely play them. I have family I rarely visit in the Pittsburgh area and sometimes go to the casino in question on those visits. I always make adjustments for each casino when I play. They all offer different game conditions. Usually it is wonging. With insane pen I make adjustments so I don't get killed when my deck assessment weakness would cause my TCs to be way off and make that last half deck or so be played and bet very inaccurately. The casinos that I regularly frequent that had alleged been cheating I won with no adjustments. The point I made was when the Genius said I missed the boat on it was that he was the one that missed any boat if it actually existed.

In almost every thread he derailed into this crap or started on it, I kept telling him if he thought this was going on STFU and learn how to beat the nonrandom shuffle. I said there are two possibilities. One is this isn't going on and his posts are hurting the AP community. The other is it is going on and he is posting a blueprint for other casinos to use to make counting ineffective. He didn't just make the allegations. He posted what deck compositions would give the casinos a huge advantage. Others also posted how to arrange cards to for the casinos to cheat in order to get a much larger advantage in the Spiderman thread. If this is actually happening that has to be the dumbest thing anyone can do. I said that repeatedly but the Genius kept researching what rigged shuffles would give the casinos the biggest advantage and posting what they were for every casino to read and drool over. How insanely stupid can you be? The way he handled it, both possibilities are very damaging to the AP community. All he had to do was say that he suspects they are rigging the shuffle. Any details are unnecessary and would be unadvisable for obvious reasons of not causing this to spread if it is true.

[BoSox]

The casinos that I regularly frequent that had alleged been cheating I won with no adjustments. The point I made was when the Genius said I missed the boat on it was that he was the one that missed any boat if it actually existed.

In the post in question you wrote:

"I missed the boat? The entire time I have been telling you to STFU and learn how to beat the non-random shuffles. If you didn't do that you missed the boat and your big mouth blew the opportunity. I told you that would happen. I told you I had no problem beating these games. I never said I was counting. Why would I expose the play? Most casinos near me are honest so my opportunities were limited. You had them right in your backyard and missed out. Next time just STFU and exploit the non-random game."

Repeating a point you made in the first above quote:

The point I made was when the Genius said I missed the boat on it was that he was the one that missed any boat if it actually existed.

If it actually existed? Three is still trying to keep the play alive, just like the Spanish 21 play.

[Three]

If it actually existed?

To prove it exists you need to do extensive statistical research or have access tone of the machines. The casinos I think might be doing it are so far from me that I rarely frequent them. Only some of the rare time I visit the family I have in Pittsburgh. The casinos they say do it in my area I needed no adjustments to beat them. Of course the Genius says that is because they never pushed the magic button. My sample size in the Pittsburgh area casinos is so small that I can't say they are rigging anything for sure. If you play enough you get a feel for how to make adjustments. Like there is no formula for floating advantage adjustments but you probably notice the certainty of results goes up as you get deeper into the shoe. Someone that can has enough experience to make adjustments by feel would just be more conservative early in the shoe than late in the shoe. If you want to deflect heat results will drive the adjustments. Like if you are winning like crazy early in the shoe you are not going to be conservative. But if you are losing all your bets you might want to lag behind on pressing them as the count increases early in the shoe. I don't recommend this for people that haven't done the research or played enough, but I am sure most veterans know what I am talking about. The point is I made adjustments after playing there for a few blue moons. My system is very versatile or making adjustments. having 500+ data bins rather than a couple of dozen is like I have a fine tuning dial that other systems don't have.

[refinery]

To prove it exists you [... wall of text...] My system is very versatile or making adjustments. having 500+ data bins rather than a couple of dozen is like I have a fine tuning dial that other systems don't have.

I really don't want yet another thread to turn to shit, but I can't help but comment on your last posts, Three. You have clearly been intimating that a) beast mode exists, and b) that you have been taking advantage of it.

I'm not a hater but you've been trying to play both ends against the middle on this one and it's dishonest.

[BJGenius007]

The games are not close to me. I rarely play them. I have family I rarely visit in the Pittsburgh area and sometimes go to the casino in question on those visits. I always make adjustments for each casino when I play. They all offer different game conditions. Usually it is wonging. With insane pen I make adjustments so I don't get killed when my deck assessment weakness would cause my TCs to be way off and make that last half deck or so be played and bet very inaccurately. The casinos that I regularly frequent that had alleged been cheating I won with no adjustments. The point I made was when the Genius said I missed the boat on it was that he was the one that missed any boat if it actually existed.

In almost every thread he derailed into this crap or started on it, I kept telling him if he thought this was going on STFU and learn how to beat the nonrandom shuffle. I said there are two possibilities. One is this isn't going on and his posts are hurting the AP community. The other is it is going on and he is posting a blueprint for other casinos to use to make counting ineffective. He didn't just make the allegations. He posted what deck compositions would give the casinos a huge advantage. Others also posted how to arrange cards to for the casinos to cheat in order to get a much larger advantage in the Spiderman thread. If this is actually happening that has to be the dumbest thing anyone can do. I said that repeatedly but the Genius kept researching what rigged shuffles would give the casinos the biggest advantage and posting what they were for every casino to read and drool over. How insanely stupid can you be? The way he handled it, both possibilities are very damaging to the AP community. All he had to do was say that he suspects they are rigging the shuffle. Any details are unnecessary and would be unadvisable for obvious reasons of not causing this to spread if it is true.

Well, the casino cheating is hard to prove. You cannot record the sessions. Just depend on the experience to declare it is not the variance but the non-random shuffler. Anyway the casino I told Three has been sold to the new owner. They closed most tables to reconfigure the casino. After the casino reopened all tables this week, I came back to check the status. For my recent two visits, the shufflers all deal true random shoes. It is now Genius-certified BJ game. I guess the old owner gets away committing a perfect crime. I am also happy that I no longer need to drive long distance to play a fair Blackjack game any more.