ZenMaster_Flash: The Man, The Myth, The Legend.

[Three]

Spiderman, you missed the entire point of ZMF's example from his post. He wanted to establish just one example of the superiority and advantages of using complex counting methods versus all the other kinds. The practicality of actually getting away with and using this team approach was not even considered for the relevance he was making.

No doubt he chose one that exposing didn't have much effect on team play because of what Spiderman pointed out. It is a play that's usefulness has pretty much expired. Why would he want to expose a play that was still powerful?

[BoSox]

No doubt he chose one that exposing didn't have much effect on team play because of what Spiderman pointed out.

Correct. The problem is that the majority of the board is comprised of relative beginners who will often think that they will one day use this idea.

[Three]

Correct. The problem is that the majority of the board is comprised of relative beginners who will often think that they will one day use this idea.

As a poster made me think more about this today, I was thinking the same thing.

[bjarg]

Another example might be that the best way to play would be table minimum at -EV counts and table max at +EV counts.

There are actually many places where you can do just that and play 12 hours a day every day.

[BoSox]

To get back to this specific example, what is the "superiority" or "advantage" if you cannot successfully employ it for more than a very brief period?

That was not relevant to ZMF, or was it his objective. He I believe was just acting as usual by pushing his preferences for complex methods nothing more.

[BoSox]

Flash knows his shit.

Be very cautious about listening to what any simple count advocate says about the complex approach. They may have no experience to base anything they say upon. That makes them a bad source of info.

Three, I do not believe those simple count users that belong to this board go around giving others information about complex methods. Besides, there is nothing to fret about here as this board has an asset that other boards drool over. You see this board has an all-important go-to guy, possibly two. The first is ZenMaster_Flash, aka The Legend.

"The "legendary" moniker refers to an interesting trip to play BJ at

"nosebleed stakes" at London's Private Casinos with a very famous, very wealthy professional

poker player, that many of us have watched on TV, taking me to London, after other Pros had

informed him that I was the "go-to guy" to be his quarterback, as I am an altruistic sort who

enjoys teaching and mentoring serious players and would accept only having my expenses

covered."

The second recipient could be you, POSSIBLY. The reason I say that is because of everything you say about your skills is still a mystery. I am not judging, all I am saying is that you could be playing a part like in a movie (such as "Catch me if you can") and is actually just a smart con artist.

[Three]

The second recipient could be you, POSSIBLY. The reason I say that is because of everything you say about your skills is still a mystery. I am not judging, all I am saying is that you could be playing a part like in a movie (such as "Catch me if you can") and is actually just a smart con artist.

Believe whatever makes you happy. I am human, so I make mistakes. They are usually being too excited about new stuff and posting prematurely about it. I think I learned my lesson on that a long time ago. I still get excite but resist the impulse to post prematurely or at all for that matter. Don't worry about my skills. They are not your concern. There are plenty that can vouch for my skills if you are worried about that. Of course the guys at the anti-semite conspiracy site that show up here regularly as socks of banned posters believe every conspiracy theory there is, so believing many top APs are involved in a conspiracy to fake my credentials is right up their alley. They would buy that in a second. LoL

I don't want to be the second one. Simple systems get the money. They have strengths and weaknesses like every other system. Just play to your system of choice's strengths and do what you can to avoid its weaknesses and you will increase the performance you will get. This is true for any system regardless of complexity.

[BoSox]

I am human, so I make mistakes.

Thank you. A lot of people been waiting to hear that for a long time.

[21forme]

Simple systems get the money. They have strengths and weaknesses like every other system.

This, too.

[Dbs6582]

Besides, there is nothing to fret about here as this board has an asset that other boards drool over. You see this board has an all-important go-to guy, possibly two. The first is ZenMaster_Flash, aka The Legend.

I’m sure everybody is waiting for me to chime in on this.

I think we can add the second legend-in-the-making is Freightman. His 10 splitting alone is legendary and on my bucket list to see first hand. I’ve been told you have to see it to be able to fully appreciate it.

[spiderman]

These concessions "I make mistakes" and "simple systems get the money" are nice, a little late as they are, but really doesn't do a whole lot of good for someone who might have been banned and had his reputation dragged through the mud, based on these "mistaken claims" does it?

I mean really, is this enough? Misleading statements that lead to the complete blow up of this site and all that followed and "I make mistakes" covers it?

[Stealth]

Unfortunately this is an area that computer simulations can't project for you. You need actual experience. What looks good on paper (or computer simulation) may have very detrimental effects, career and 'playing days' shortening effects when actually implemented.

That is not exactly true. Custom made creative works based on existing game simulations do make it possible to evaluate such structures.

ZMF's post was an example of the type of concepts that can improve longevity. He likely has no intention of posting "actual" protocols as that would not be wise.

Unless you have experience using them, I would suggest you might want to withhold your opinion. Mine comes from experience and would suggest you are wrong.

If you do have experience with this type of concept then PM me and we can share information.

[Three]

This, too.

I have been saying this regularly for years. People just have selective memories.