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    I grew up in NJ. enough said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Thanks Bosox. You can always be counted on to be a class act. I wish I could say the same thing about myself. I like to make little digs in a good natured ribbing. I don't think most get my version of humor with that. They see it as me trying to be superior but in truth I am just having fun with friends. My friends were all very intelligent. We knew nobody would be insecure enough to take it the wrong way. Unfortunately I really don't know much about my forum friends. Sometimes I overstep and hit a nerve unintentionally. To anybody that took my cocky ribbing in a hard way I apologize. It was not intended that way. I don't know if anyone can relate to this but I think it is common in a group of highly intelligent people. Perhaps think about a group of really strong people ribbing others about being weak. Or a group of really pretty people ribbing each other about beauty flaws. Everyone is secure enough to not get upset and know it is just fun ribbing between friends. It is poor form to rip people about something they are sensitive about. It isn't fun. It is just mean. So if I ribbed you rather than saying you were wrong it was really a complement. It said I think you are secure enough in your intelligence to not take offense. I hope I wasn't wrong about that with any of those that I have ribbed.
    Disingenuous bullshit - no offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    See why I have to make long posts. When I leave out irrelevant information to making the point people act like it is relevant. Ye if you want to compare places that you shouldn't play to begin with the difference is small. If you want to play places with great rules and pen and the expected low tolerance for spreading, time of play, etc my example applies.
    That is the main problem Three, we do not know exactly what examples you are going by. For years many threads on blackjack theory have been taken over by your interjections of different claims. Leaving many players bewildered, not realizing that all your insights were in regards to Spanish 21. You were so caught up in your own accomplishments it never occurred to you to mention this little fact, and it went on for a long period of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    You miss the point. They know both are counting but one gets the money while playing within their tolerances and the other doesn't. If you never played a more complicated system you probably never experienced being allowed to play because you had to push tolerance levels. That is my point. Thank you for illustrating it by your naiveté about what casinos will tolerate if you can get a good advantage while playing within tolerances.
    Frankly, I think your point stinks. Lets properly clarify your point that you shorted in the second sentence in the above quote.

    "They know both are counting but one gets the money while playing within their tolerances and the other doesn't."

    The casino knows both are counting but one gets the money over an extended period of years within their tolerances and the other doesn't. Pure bullshit, absolute crap and you know it. Why does the casino know the two players are counting? You insinuate that the spread is smaller for the harder count, and in importance like it is a minor factor or something. Stanford Wong, does not think like that neither do I, the spread is the meat and potatoes of making money. I know, I know but the other guy is okay to play because his/her tolerance level is within bounds. Well, I am telling you that when you are a winning player on a consistent basis there is no acceptable tolerance spread period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Stats remains strong with a less threatening spread and top bet. The time it takes to hit your win tolerance goal is shorter so you are more likely to be tolerated.
    Using A better count with a less threatening spread, will allow the player to reach a tolerance goal in a shorter period of time REALLY. Are you sure you are talking about the Tarzan count and not talking about your own personal count, which has a PE factor of 43% EV gain alone, that makes up for all the deliberate errors you make?

    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    If you never played a more complicated system you probably never experienced being allowed to play because you had to push tolerance levels.
    You already know just from reading my posts that I do not need to push betting tolerance levels, and that I do not try.
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-01-2018 at 06:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    That is the main problem Three, we do not know exactly what examples you are going by. For years many threads on blackjack theory have been taken over by your interjections of different claims. Leaving many players bewildered, not realizing that all your insights were in regards to Spanish 21. You were so caught up in your own accomplishments it never occurred to you to mention this little fact, and it went on for a long period of time.



    Frankly, I think your point stinks. Lets properly clarify your point that you shorted in the second sentence in the above quote.

    "They know both are counting but one gets the money while playing within their tolerances and the other doesn't."

    The casino knows both are counting but one gets the money over an extended period of years within their tolerances and the other doesn't. Pure bullshit, absolute crap and you know it. Why does the casino know the two players are counting? You insinuate that the spread is smaller for the harder count, and in importance like it is a minor factor or something. Stanford Wong, does not think like that neither do I, the spread is the meat and potatoes of making money. I know, I know but the other guy is okay to play because his/her tolerance level is within bounds. Well, I am telling you that when you are a winning player on a consistent basis there is no acceptable tolerance spread period.



    Using A better count with a less threatening spread, will allow the player to reach a tolerance goal in a shorter period of time REALLY. Are you sure you are talking about the Tarzan count and not talking about your own personal count, which has a PE factor of 43% EV gain alone, that makes up for all the deliberate errors you make?



    You already know just from reading my posts that I do not need to push betting tolerance levels, and that I do not try.
    Thumbs up.
    You know, I just can't figure it out. On the one hand, 3 says he hides his 1-20 spread (invisible to the naked eye?), on the other hand, 3 says his advanced linear count souped with his hi Opt 2 asc, gives him big longevity at low spread. Kids mixed up.

    I've found peace, tranquility and harmony, with halves plus FBM ASC - for feel good play. You are joyful with hi lo. Perhaps the hidden ingredient is.........dare I say..........judgement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Freightman, you Moses, and Three all exhibit intelligence, unfortunately, I can only understand two of you.
    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    I figured Bosox was referring to me. Hell, i don't even know what im going to do next. Hmmm. I like it that way. joking
    I haven't figured it out yet which two it is.

    One guy has duel betting ramps, who side counts on his balls.

    One guy is living in a single deck world lost in a Twilight Zone.

    One guy who has no idea what game he is playing or talking about.


    All in good fun, as we are all a little nuts.
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-01-2018 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post

    Freighter, I got to use your "author of own misfortune" line last night. Man, it nailed him.
    It's a good line. Though, now, a peace offering may be in order. To aid the process, i bequeath upon you, no charge licensing to assist the gentleman in question in proper use if the FBM ASC - for feel good play. Kind of like a Beta test.

    To all others, for franchise opportunities, get in touch with me. Everyone, including members if the Hi Opt Brigade, are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Twilight Zone. Excellent analogy Bosox. FTR, I didn't exactly choose this life. It sort of chose me. Not a bad life for retired folks once you learn the ropes. Definately not for the family man or one starting out.
    Moses all joking aside, If I ever happen to notice something strange going on during my play, you are going to be the first one I will seek out for an opinion on what is going on. That is not to be taken lightly as I really respect your casino floor insights, not to mention what your knowledge entails on how you are still allowed to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    To all others, for franchise opportunities, get in touch with me. Everyone, including members if the Hi Opt Brigade, are welcome.
    I want to get in from the ground floor before it is to late, and the IPO happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I want to get in from the ground floor before it is to late, and the IPO happens.
    Incentives, by way of no charge fur lined jockstraps for new franchisees. Only the best, for ball to ball carpeting.

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    I always try to consider whether my post is worthwhile enough to post, what is extra information that no ones needs, cares about, or that might only confuse or muddy the waters rather than clarify anything. I try to keep anything personal out of it, sort of like that cop show way back when..."Just the facts, Sir. Just the facts." Sometimes it doesn't always go like all that, though. Threads go way off track, people whine at each other, it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    I always try to consider whether my post is worthwhile enough to post, what is extra information that no ones needs, cares about, or that might only confuse or muddy the waters rather than clarify anything.
    My theory is when a thread suddenly turns to the merits or not, of side counting on your balls, this represents a temporary truce and an unwinding period from the heat of the battle, and to tend to the injured. Nothing more than children playing Cowboys and Indians a rather good game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    I try to keep anything personal out of it, sort of like that cop show way back when..."Just the facts, Sir. Just the facts." Sometimes it doesn't always go like all that, though. Threads go way off track, people whine at each other, it happens.
    I hope things are going well not only for you but also for your upcoming book. Speaking of the saying, "Just the facts, Sir. Just the facts." I hope you realize that when your book comes out there will be plenty of jealousy from a very competitive person who just so happens has his own current unpublished counting system. If he feels you are getting too much attention that is being drawn away from him, he will immediately point out how much more he has to his game besides his counting method. Such as, when he is playing he has already trained around 95% of the ploppies to do what he wants them to do, be that changing tables or whatever. The other 5% comprised of a biker gang he will meet them in the parking lot and kick the leader in the nuts, and say anyone else. So just the facts man, Tarzan can you compete?
    Last edited by BoSox; 03-02-2018 at 06:05 AM.

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    Just look at how long this thread has dragged on.

    A perfect example of a few guys who have way too much time on their hands, and can't possibly play BJ, given the steady stream of posts throughout the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Just look at how long this thread has dragged on.

    A perfect example of a few guys who have way too much time on their hands, and can't possibly play BJ, given the steady stream of posts throughout the day.
    Just in case you're referring to me, among others - being pretty much retired, really more semi retired, does give one additional time - of course, there's a couple if boneheads that need to be challenged.

    I'm currently on a bj trip - putting in a massive 3.5 hours yesterday - appreciated 6.7k addition to my personal relief fund. I've invested a huge 32.0 hours to bj this year, with a slice over 17k, and I did it WITHOUT Hi Opt 2. Received a top up bonus - with thanks to the FBM ASC, and of course - judgement.

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