Confused by Thorp !

[21forme]

Too long; didn't read.

Thank you, Don.

Freightman, here's the animated version, just for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tl%3Bdr

[Freightman]

Thank you, Don.

Freightman, here's the animated version, just for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tl%3Bdr

Reminds me if this guy named Bill, and was upset because he felt it was to long a name. So, he shortened it to Bil.

[mofungoo]

Never saw a single deck game that allowed surrender

H17, D10,11 LSR 70%+ pen. Good times.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Re: Surrender, (bothLate and Early.)

E.V. is inversely proportional to the number of decks being used.

So ... it is worth little in a Single Deck game, more in an 8 decker.

Note: The REAL value of Late Surrender is higher than the Basic

Strategist, as s/he will be armed with solid Indices based upon the

True Count. The Basic Strategist will have just 4 hands to (late)

surrender. I have a full raft of indices, although I have never

surrendered a 13. I suggest learning at least 14, 15, 16 vs.
8, 9, 10, Ace.

Surrendering hands also reduces variance, our invisible enemy!

[Freightman]

Re: Surrender, (both Late and Early.)

E.V. is inversely proportional to the number of decks being used.

So ... it is worth little in a Single Deck game, more in an 8 decker.

Note: The REAL value of Late Surrender is higher than the Basic

Strategist, as s/he will be armed with solid Indices based upon the

True Count. The Basic Strategist will have just 4 hands to (late)

surrender. I have a full raft of indices, although I have never

surrendered a 13. I suggest learning at least 14, 15, 16 vs. 8,9,10,Ace.

Surrendering hands also reduces variance, our invisible enemy!

I have surrendered 13 before, but very rarely. I will play a non surrender game, but deck pen had better be good. Surrender, used properly adds about a full third to EV.

Should also add that, like Flash, I use a full boat (actually, he only uses a raft) of surrender indices.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

" ... like Flash, I use a full boat (actually, he only uses a raft) of surrender indices."

Boat vs. Raft

Both denotes clear images.

Both connote differently.

A "raft" denotes a flat floatable 'thing' mainly used
to transport things over non-turbulent waters, etc.

BlackJack's variance, is metaphorical turbulence.
As such, the "raft" of surrender would reduce the
pain (in our bankrolls) that our volatile game has.

This is an ironic post.
Oops.
I just failed the Relevance Test.

[Freightman]

Boat vs. Raft

Both denotes clear images.

Both connote differently.

A "raft" denotes a flat floatable 'thing' mainly used
to transport things over non-turbulent waters, etc.

BlackJack's variance, is metaphorical turbulence.
As such, the "raft" of surrender would reduce the
pain (in our bankrolls) that our volatile game has.

This is an ironic post.
Oops.
I just failed the Relevance Test.

You don't often don't display humor. Nicely done, and dry to boot.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Back to the actual topic at hand ...

The 1966 edition was the first time Hi-Lo
was published and the paperback came
with flash cards for study.

[Three]

Boat vs. Raft

Both denotes clear images.

Both connote differently.

A "raft" denotes a flat floatable 'thing' mainly used
to transport things over non-turbulent waters, etc.

BlackJack's variance, is metaphorical turbulence.
As such, the "raft" of surrender would reduce the
pain (in our bankrolls) that our volatile game has.

This is an ironic post.
Oops.
I just failed the Relevance Test.

Raft when used to indicate a number refers to a floating congregation of waterfowl. A gaggle would be a family group of two parents and their offspring, typically 6 to 12 birds. A raft would be numerous gaggles gathered together. So a raft used to denote a number of objects indicates a number that is more than you care to count.

I thought it was funny because a boat does fine in calm waters but in turbulent water, variance, a boat would tend to take on water and become less buoyant but waterfowl float well no matter how rough the water gets. So using raft as a large number of surrender indices would smooth out the variance when it gets turbulent.

[Freightman]

Raft when used to indicate a number refers to a floating congregation of waterfowl. A gaggle would be a family group of two parents and their offspring, typically 6 to 12 birds. A raft would be numerous gaggles gathered together. So a raft used to denote a number of objects indicates a number that is more than you care to count.

I thought it was funny because a boat does fine in calm waters but in turbulent water, variance, a boat would tend to take on water and become less buoyant but waterfowl float well no matter how rough the water gets. So using raft as a large number of surrender indices would smooth out the variance when it gets turbulent.

Sure hope that's not your idea of humor.