Still Hope?

[Ustonzen]

If I know moses it was either a bewildering sports analogy or a quote from some shitty, shitty movie nobody's thought about in ten years

[BoSox]

Everyone knows its better the sims say its better Norm has a graph on THIS SITE that shows its better using sweet little lollipop graphs - what does me having used it before have to do with anything?

Please say it correctly, you should have said:
What does me NOT having used it before have to do with anything?
Answer everything, you are trying to pass yourself off as an accomplished seasoned player, which is utter crap.

The reality is not about what count is the best count, but what count is more suitable for an individual.

[Ustonzen]

Please say it correctly, you should have said:
What does me NOT having used it before have to do with anything?
Answer everything, you are trying to pass yourself off as an accomplished seasoned player, which is utter crap.

The reality is not about what count is the best count, but what count is more suitable for an individual.

I never, ever said i was a seasoned player - there are decrepit old guys everywhere who can name more football players and their stats then any 20 active roster NFL players can - a topic as academic as counting does not require some incredible plethora of grinding experience to be knowledgable in especially in this scenario where the advice given was on which count was more mentally taxing and therefore more in line with the OPs stated reason for learning in tge first place

Youre going to have to come at me with something better than that bro, I know what ive said...

[BoSox]

I never, ever said i was a seasoned player

You may not say it in words, but your implications can fool new players, which is underhanded.

a topic as academic as counting does not require some incredible plethora of grinding experience to be knowledgable in especially in this scenario where the advice given was on which count was more mentally taxing and therefore more in line with the OPs stated reason for learning in tge first place

That is just it, how the hell do you know what qualities qualify as knowledgeable when you have not experienced it yourself?

[Freightman]

I never, ever said i was a seasoned player - there are decrepit old guys everywhere who can name more football players and their stats then any 20 active roster NFL players can - a topic as academic as counting does not require some incredible plethora of grinding experience to be knowledgable in especially in this scenario where the advice given was on which count was more mentally taxing and therefore more in line with the OPs stated reason for learning in tge first place

Youre going to have to come at me with something better than that bro, I know what ive said...

And what you've said, has once again, defined you as a fucking idiot. You lack any semblance of seasoning or judgement, items which are key to long term success.

Go to a deserted pacific island for 20 years, study every book ever published on the game of chess, the nuances of move and endless counter move, and counter counter move, and you might be a competent grandmaster chess player able to cruise to a winning record.

Your stated method of knowledge generation for Blackjack, however, requires a tuition cost, which means successful play under actual casino conditions. You lack that critical component, and thus, your advice is a disservice to those that you try to bullshit.

[Freightman]

Two things take players down quicker than anything. Variance and unmet expectations. Hard to get that from a book. You have to experience it to get it.

Nice post

[Ustonzen]

Nice post

Ive fucking counted before - I just havent used hi opt 2 before but i have learned it. Who gives a shit about newbs anyways - they have to seperate the wheat from the chaff like everyone else and this guy (if you idiots even read the OP instead of just seeing that ive posted and then started frothing at the vagina) wanted to work out his brain not make a profession out of it - so obviously hiopt is better then hi lo for that purpose.

Jesus fucking christ

[ZeroCool]

Ive fucking counted before - I just havent used hi opt 2 before but i have learned it. Who gives a shit about newbs anyways - they have to seperate the wheat from the chaff like everyone else and this guy (if you idiots even read the OP instead of just seeing that ive posted and then started frothing at the vagina) wanted to work out his brain not make a profession out of it - so obviously hiopt is better then hi lo for that purpose.

Jesus fucking christ

My original post was intended to be an introduction to the forum. Is it wrong to be a beginner and possibly want to get better? Also, I have a profession but this seems like an appealing skill set to implement on the side... Hence, I do not have a fixed bankroll that if I lose I am toast.

Beginning right of the bat with hiopt would be like learning to run before you can walk, is that accurate?

Based on your posts, it does not appear that you can maintain any emotional discipline.... are you financially successful in this field?

[Ustonzen]

My original post was intended to be an introduction to the forum. Is it wrong to be a beginner and possibly want to get better? Also, I have a profession but this seems like an appealing skill set to implement on the side... Hence, I do not have a fixed bankroll that if I lose I am toast.Beginning right of the bat with hiopt would be like learning to run before you can walk, is that accurate? Based on your posts, it does not appear that you can maintain any emotional discipline.... are you financially successful in this field?

No beginning with hiopt would be like learning to shoot a basketball properly instead of doing it girly-style between your legs first. AYou shouldnt extrapolate any information from posts that are meant to fuck with people - the only accurate data point is "that dude likes to fuck with people"In your third sentence you said you "hope...for brain exercise." - hiopt is more effective exercise.Dont listen to freights - hes canadian, which - as everybody knows, is the mildy-autistic peewee league of western civilization

[Freightman]

My original post was intended to be an introduction to the forum. Is it wrong to be a beginner and possibly want to get better? Also, I have a profession but this seems like an appealing skill set to implement on the side... Hence, I do not have a fixed bankroll that if I lose I am toast.

Beginning right of the bat with hiopt would be like learning to run before you can walk, is that accurate?

Based on your posts, it does not appear that you can maintain any emotional discipline.... are you financially successful in this field?

Astute. Nicely phrased.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Suggestion: To ease confusion type Hi-Opt II or Hi-Opt I, whichever is correct. Hi-Opt I is a fine count for Pitch Games IF utilizing Side Counts for 'middle cards' Hi-Opt II is simply 'the Bee's Knees.' L O L

[Ustonzen]

Since today's pitch games and rules are tighter than a Nat's Ass. There is really no need for all that...unless you have a time machine. L O L

So youre saying that since todays games are harder its smart to be less good at them? Dont you have some bewildering quote from some forgettable movie to make your point even less salient?

[Ustonzen]

How do they not exist? How does keeping an ace side count - varying your bets accordingly (read: more accurately) and using a count that more accurately reflects the EOR's of the cards get somehow negated because theres more heat in some places then youre used to be? My point is illustrated by this seminal quote from the Goonies - " Hey you guyyyyyyyyyyys!"