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[Three]

I've tried that with other casinos and they simply refuse to fan the cards face up and give you no explanation. It's funny that they dont because what can they possibly lose by showing everyone the cards? A small case could be said for people shuffle tracking, but even that is rare after a proper shuffle technique. What excuse do casinos have by NOT fanning the cards face up, if they're just going to throw it in the ASM right after? Should raise red flags to everyone. And it should also raise flags to everyone that the commission is a complete joke and so easy to be bypassed if someone savvy enough wants to cheat. How can a gaming commission that is supposed to enforce game protection have casinos NOT fan their cards face up? I mean really? And we're supposed to believe with 100% certainty that casinos dont cheat LOL. Im done here, i really am. The whole system is corrupt, which seems to be a common theme going around in the world.

At Harrah's Philly, when they change the cards, they can load one brick of cards into the ASM without a witness but the second deck must remain face up on the table until a patron sits at the table and waits for the washing of the cards to be done. They won't do it without a witness. If the witness okays that all the cards are there and asks for a spot reserved and leaves they do nothing until he comes back. They require their dealers to do nothing without a witness. I guess you can rule deck stacking out. That just leaves biased shuffle machines. Since everyone else does just fine there you can rule that out. That just leaves you as the issue. You will never find out why you are causing this until you can admit you are causing this. It is the first step to learning. For me every time I hit nasty variance I assumed it was me and figured out how I might be causing it. I changed procedures for determining TC. I changed exit strategy based on my records at each store. I changed what conditions I looked for based on my records. And in case it wasn't me, I still needed a way to increase my results and the relative variance I made my approach more advanced. For a long time it seemed like that had only a modest effect on results but eventually I hit on a combination of things that seemed to really help eliminate bad runs or at least make them quite infrequent and of short duration. Unfortunately severe downswings within those parameters can't be avoided but recovery from them was made more certain and swifter. If I had your attitude I would have never made so many improvements or developed better skills and used them enough to make them effortless and not even done consciously. Basically your attitude is preventing you from becoming a better counter and developing and refining new skills. For me it was probably just variance but i did something to make that more tolerable.

How can a gaming commission that is supposed to enforce game protection have casinos NOT fan their cards face up? I mean really? And we're supposed to believe with 100% certainty that casinos dont cheat LOL. Im done here, i really am. The whole system is corrupt, which seems to be a common theme going around in the world.

Your belief that this is so shows you never tried to be there when they changed cards. Every casino is required by law to have an inspection of the cards by patrons. Those pre-shuffled bricks make that a silly thing though but you get to watch them break the factory seal. The factory has nothing to gain and everything at risk if they send out stacked decks and even if they did by mistake the shuffle machine would flag it before any cards could be dealt. You are only at risk of stacked decks in a hand shuffled game.

[LoneWoLF]

At Harrah's Philly, when they change the cards, they can load one brick of cards into the ASM without a witness but the second deck must remain face up on the table until a patron sits at the table and waits for the washing of the cards to be done. They won't do it without a witness. If the witness okays that all the cards are there and asks for a spot reserved and leaves they do nothing until he comes back. They require their dealers to do nothing without a witness. I guess you can rule deck stacking out. That just leaves biased shuffle machines. Since everyone else does just fine there you can rule that out. That just leaves you as the issue. You will never find out why you are causing this until you can admit you are causing this. It is the first step to learning. For me every time I hit nasty variance I assumed it was me and figured out how I might be causing it. I changed procedures for determining TC. I changed exit strategy based on my records at each store. I changed what conditions I looked for based on my records. And in case it wasn't me, I still needed a way to increase my results and the relative variance I made my approach more advanced. For a long time it seemed like that had only a modest effect on results but eventually I hit on a combination of things that seemed to really help eliminate bad runs or at least make them quite infrequent and of short duration. Unfortunately severe downswings within those parameters can't be avoided but recovery from them was made more certain and swifter. If I had your attitude I would have never made so many improvements or developed better skills and used them enough to make them effortless and not even done consciously. Basically your attitude is preventing you from becoming a better counter and developing and refining new skills. For me it was probably just variance but i did something to make that more tolerable.
Your belief that this is so shows you never tried to be there when they changed cards. Every casino is required by law to have an inspection of the cards by patrons. Those pre-shuffled bricks make that a silly thing though but you get to watch them break the factory seal. The factory has nothing to gain and everything at risk if they send out stacked decks and even if they did by mistake the shuffle machine would flag it before any cards could be dealt. You are only at risk of stacked decks in a hand shuffled game.

That's funny cause i have been there when they change the cards and not once has any casino in PA that I played at fanned their cards face up when changing the cards. Parx for example comes to mind, they simply stack the cards up in the discard tray, put it in to a clear plastic bag and put it away, take the new GEMPAK cards, break the seal and spread the new cards face down and let the dealer count it one by one i guess to make sure all the cards are there. After counting them one by one with the cards laying face down, they put one of the 8 decks into the ASM and do the same procedure with the other 8 decks and then shuffle and it begins. Not once do they ever fan the old cards face up and not once do they fan the new cards face up. Everything is done discreetly.

And how do you know, i dont look at myself after negative variance? I always ask questions of myself, but quickly rule it out once i test myself on verite and think about what just happened. My deck estimation is not off, my count is on lock, everything is fine. Casino is cheating or im just cursed and on bad variance like everything in my life. I constantly put in more work than the other guy and it never pays off. Someone with my luck would have gone mentally insane already and im close to it.

[seriousplayer]

That's funny cause i have been there when they change the cards and not once has any casino in PA that I played at fanned their cards face up when changing the cards. Parx for example comes to mind, they simply stack the cards up in the discard tray, put it in to a clear plastic bag and put it away, take the new GEMPAK cards, break the seal and spread the new cards face down and let the dealer count it one by one i guess to make sure all the cards are there. After counting them one by one with the cards laying face down, they put one of the 8 decks into the ASM and do the same procedure with the other 8 decks and then shuffle and it begins. Not once do they ever fan the old cards face up and not once do they fan the new cards face up. Everything is done discreetly.

And how do you know, i dont look at myself after negative variance? I always ask questions of myself, but quickly rule it out once i test myself on verite and think about what just happened. My deck estimation is not off, my count is on lock, everything is fine. Casino is cheating or im just cursed and on bad variance like everything in my life. I constantly put in more work than the other guy and it never pays off. Someone with my luck would have gone mentally insane already and im close to it.

If that is the case than why don't you suspect Parx casino is cheating you too since you haven't seen them fan the cards face up? Instead you think Harrah is cheating you?

[Three]

Nothing is wrong with my game for the millionth time and ive tested it also on verite millions of times. Some people are just plain lucky in their life and think they're some type of savant. Just look at smallcapgrowth who was recently on GWAE and said hes close to making a million. You actually think he's better than me?

I think he understands a whole lot about counting that you don't. Experienced pros often say counting is easy but making money counting is hard. You obviously never contemplated the meaning of that. You also missed the point that you can increase your game and modify how you do the math to be less likely to make an error, faster and more accurate all at the same time. You seem to think all you need to do is go into the casino and count cards and you should win. There is a lot more to it than that. This week I have spent lots of time refining my system. Next week will be the same. I will learn more and make things more powerful every week. This history is why my results are what they are and why they will continue to improve. I learned to do this when I hit patches like you have hit but I didn't cry about it. I did what I could to change it. Whether it was just variance or not my game was stronger after each bad run. After I did that enough I realized I shouldn't wait for bad runs to continue increasing my advantage and the likelihood to never complain about bad runs. How much have you done to increase your EV or lower the distance from EV you are likely to be in the shorten through all of this? Your discussion has moved in the wrong direction if that is a goal. You talk about diminishing returns and things not being worth it where you didn't before. From an EV standpoint you might not be far off but from a results standpoint you won't be crying so much.

What makes Smallcap better than you is he would anticipate such bad runs and play hard until they kicked him out. If he lost huge before being kicked out he would go to the next store and play just as hard. He is not a longevity player. he plays as hard as he can get away with for as long as he can and moves on. His variance would make what you are experiencing look like nothing. He plays tolerant games which usually means games on the poorer side. He uses enormous spreads and trades huge sums back and forth knowing in the long run he will be ahead. For his style of play he is a great player. Longevity players play a totally different game.

All he has is the bankroll and more time than I do with also much better luck than i have. I think my problem is I just dont play enough to have the math sort itself out, but whenever I do it's over. But even with a lot of hours played I will need some luck like flash and smallcap to be on the good side of positive variance to have a really good year and not just your normal average EV year or below EV type of year and as of right now it looks like a pathetic first 1000 hours.

You assume they are on the good side of variance. A year you would envy for them could be on the bad side of variance. To a degree you make your own luck. You set yourself up to fail or succeed with your understanding of what is likely to happen. Flash and Smallcap both have huge losing runs as a part of their normal expectation. We are talking runs that would bust your BR. But they have wins to wipe out the losses and a whole lot more. They have the stomach for AP play but you don't seem to.

[Three]

That's funny cause i have been there when they change the cards and not once has any casino in PA that I played at fanned their cards face up when changing the cards.

They know I want to see and if they want my big play they will show me so they always do without asking. I assumed that is SOP but maybe it is not. I can tell you all the cards are there.

w do you know, i dont look at myself after negative variance? I always ask questions of myself, but quickly rule it out once i test myself on verite and think about what just happened. My deck estimation is not off, my count is on lock, everything is fine. Casino is cheating or im just cursed and on bad variance like everything in my life. I constantly put in more work than the other guy and it never pays off. Someone with my luck would have gone mentally insane already and im close to it.

I am not talking about finding where you are making mistakes. I am talking about improving what you are doing to make mistakes less likely, make your decisions easier and faster and increase EV by adding to what you are already doing. You don't know if it is variance or you are making mistakes so if you want better results you have to attack each possibility. If you consider casino cheating. that is the easiest thing because all you need to do is not play at that casino.

[Stealth]

Just give me half the luck you guys have and there's not one person who can outpace me in lifetime win by the time my life is over.

Are you guys still going at the cheating thing!

LW did you really make the above statement and expect anyone to take you seriously as an AP?

[seriousplayer]

This week I have spent lots of time refining my system. Next week will be the same. I will learn more and make things more powerful every week.

The same here I did a lot of computer work, research and experience to make my system and strategy not only mathematically correct but also to make it powerful under all casino conditions. But of course I make it simple to use and effective

[bossman]

Will someone explain to me how the cards in the shoe can be altered hand after hand to adjust to the number of hands spread at, say, halfway through a shoe? Or if the casino has some way to predict how many hands will be spread on the next deal? Then I can tell LW that he has a legitimate cheating beef with multiple casinos. Until then, I call BULL!
LW, TThree is right. You will always have a problem as a EP as long as you don't accept responsibility for your end of the game. It's like if you play against your wife on the kitchen table and expect to win every hand. You will never win every session. Never.

[LoneWoLF]

Will someone explain to me how the cards in the shoe can be altered hand after hand to adjust to the number of hands spread at, say, halfway through a shoe? Or if the casino has some way to predict how many hands will be spread on the next deal? Then I can tell LW that he has a legitimate cheating beef with multiple casinos. Until then, I call BULL!
LW, TThree is right. You will always have a problem as a EP as long as you don't accept responsibility for your end of the game. It's like if you play against your wife on the kitchen table and expect to win every hand. You will never win every session. Never.

I've said they are stacking the deck. Whatever they're doing, something is off there. That's why they don't fan the cards face up. I'm skeptical of all casinos that don't fan them up. What do they have to lose by simply fanning the cards face up? Red flags should be going off.

I don't mind variance and losses, I accept that, as I understand the math of the game, but when you're playing what is supposedly a top notch game and you don't win one monster count ever and drop 10k betting 2x50 - 2x250 only playing positive counts for the most part, then one should remain skeptical. How can I consistently get crushed on monster counts at this store? This is more than just horrible variance.

[LoneWoLF]

Are you guys still going at the cheating thing!

LW did you really make the above statement and expect anyone to take you seriously as an AP?

Peoples opinions about me mean very little if at all. I'm not here looking for rep. I hope all of you think I'm the worst player. Means zero to me.

[Norm]

Do me a favor. Do not post when you are in a bad mood. We all lose sometimes. An occasional venting is allowed. But, you appear to go totally off sometimes and no one wants to listen to it.

Closed.