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Should I start watching my bet spread when the pit boss is watching? Given the fact that card counting is not considered illegal but the casino can deny player from playing a game in which they have an advantage versus the house, how should we cope?
On top of ZMF's fine advice on your game. Only you can assess the situation accurately. It is tough for others to say when just getting your report. Just because they know you are counting doesn't mean you will get the axe. Having others see a winner actually helps business and they know it. What they act against is someone that is a true threat to their bottom line. Some counters are long term losers. It may just be variance or it may be they are bad at either counting or the non counting aspects of playing a winning game. Anyway, they will tolerate you too a point. You don't want to play too frequently, win too much at any session or over a short span of multiple days, or bet too much (spread or max bet) and you don't want to win too much over the long haul. All these "too"s vary by casino. Some have almost no tolerance while others have a great deal of tolerance and everywhere in-between. When you have overstayed your welcome they will let you know. It looks like you have identified at least some of the signs. Leave if you have overstayed your welcome. If the signs look really bad a vacation from play at the property may be in order. If you are way down on a day don't try to get it all back in that session.
This is the appropriate time to use the it is all one big session adage, and be happy getting most of it back and posting a loss. The loss looks good when reviewing your file. Whether you play rated or not they have a file on you now and likely have for a while if you were playing unrated. If you play where they have license plate recognition software they likely have your name on it or at least the plate. When you show up they know you are there before you place a bet and add play to your file. The key now is to stay within their comfort zone. Most AP's get a BO because of their greed. Some AP's don't care because they are using a slash and burn strategy at that store. If longevity is important at that store don't give them a reason to act by doing any of the "too"s. I always figure most places know I am counting because it is not hard to tell. The key is to allow them not to act without getting shit from their boss. When what you do will make them catch shit you are forcing them to act. If you do things right when the BO comes (not if) it is for a very high lifetime win and not anything else.
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