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    What Percentage of Blackjack Players Have Basic Strategy Memorized?

    I wonder if most player's DO have it memorized?

    Would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

    It seems to me that many could use a easy way to "memorize" Basic Strategy ... hence my book.

    Thanks!

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    Two threads with the same ad in a few hours is spamming. (Actually, one is.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectBlackjackStrategy View Post
    I wonder if most player's DO have it memorized?

    Would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

    It seems to me that many could use a easy way to "memorize" Basic Strategy ... hence my book.

    Thanks!

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    What percentage of blackjack players on this forum know perfect basic strategy? Probably 95%+ (hopefully). This is a forum primarily for blackjack advantage players and other APs. I think you're barking up the wrong tree buddy.

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    I was sincerely just was wondering what you all thought about most players having basic strategy memorized. Seems to me they do not - but I have not had a chance to actually ask too many players ...

    Do you think most everyone here has it memorized? I am just curious because for a beginner like me it was the hardest part!

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    TY for your feedback Ry - very helpful!

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    Thanks Flip.

    You see, we are, um, advanced here. I would be shocked if anyone needed your "service".

    Most people on here can play and know perfect strategy without thinking. Also, many people on here can tell you down to the decimal how much money and expected value they lose by doing other plays. Not only that, but most people on here change away from basic strategy and do different things than the rules say when situations get right.

    This is because basic strategy is shit. Players the world over have lost their shirts playing perfect basic strategy. Give anyone on this forum a game with whatever rules and an average bet and he will be able to instantly calculate the average loss per hour. You are essentially offering everyone (though no one here, I assure you) a twenty dollar fee to go out there and get their ass kicked in less... So that's still admirable, if your "rules" are real. But I doubt it and I'm sure I speak for everyone here when I say they doubt it too. So make sure you aren't selling snake oil and go be excited somewhere else please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    What percentage of blackjack players on this forum know perfect basic strategy? Probably 95%+ (hopefully). This is a forum primarily for blackjack advantage players and other APs.
    I would agree on the 95%+. There are some real REAL sharp People on this forum.

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    Never played blackjack basic strategy. I knew full well that casino games were negative expectation and was never tempted to play, despite the fact that I was a Poker player, until reading Thorp decades ago. First time I entered a casino, I was a counter. A lousy, ignorant counter -- but a counter. Having said that, a prospective AP should know blackjack basic strategy. But, if it doesn't come easily, he/she is not likely to become an AP.
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    I know perfect Basic Strategy for any normal number of decks re: H17 vs. S17,
    DAS vs NDAS, with or without restricted doubles, Late or Early Surrender, etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectBlackjackStrategy View Post
    I wonder if most player's DO have it memorized?

    Would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

    It seems to me that many could use a easy way to "memorize" Basic Strategy ... hence my book.

    Thanks!

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    LOL, I question your sanity. Everyone on this site already knows basic strategy and it was easy to memorize; I'm pretty sure an elementary student could do it in exchange for an A grade. Nobody in a casino wants to know basic strategy. But if they did, they can buy a basic strategy chart for $2 and use it at the table. So who exactly is going to buy your useless book? Just go up to people in their cars while they're waiting at red lights and ask for money, you'll be more successful. Don't even offer them a book, just look sad.

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    Actually I would say most here know basic strategy............unlike Norm, had it memorized for years to play the comp game before trying to become AP and it worked well for me. Because if it's memorized you could play drunk; have fun with buddies and still not really risk much money. So a little difference opinion (at least as to that portion). BUT I think the vast majority of members are beyond this; or will have learned/memorized it.

    I don't think 100% here know EVERY basic strategy "permutation" because we all tend to play the majority of time on different games. But those differences are minute relative to our purpose of being (or becoming) a true AP. The only things I notice are differences or mistakes/memory lapses on playing H17 v. S17 or single/double deck strategy v. shoe game Basic. Those are the only places I have even seen AP players sometimes forget the minor nuances. (Maybe surrender rules) But all in all, I do NOT think most need help with learning it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJGolf View Post
    I don't think 100% here know EVERY basic strategy "permutation"
    Good point. I wonder if the OP's book covers them all or if the OP even knows that there are Basic Strategy variations. Seems like he would need more than 5 rules to cover them all.

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    Offer a buck or two to every person you meet and ask a BS question. If they have it wrong, that's a lead and you can sell them a $20 book.

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