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    When you are counting games where the penetrations is unusually high like this, you need to remember that sometimes, the cards as they are dealt from previous shows become slightly bent in various manors, it makes the discard pile "poof up" taller than it would be if brand new cards were placed in the discard rack. Often you will observe a discard rack with what appears to be 7.5 of 8 decks in the tray, though in reality it is only 6.5 decks of cards because they have "poofed up" and become taller. I call it the "poofage factor" but i have never seen anybody discuss this effect. It is most notable when the discard tray will be completely full, but there is still 1 whole deck left undealt, this makes it very easy to erroneously figure a TC for an index near the end of the shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACFERRET View Post
    When you are counting games where the penetrations is unusually high like this, you need to remember that sometimes, the cards as they are dealt from previous shows become slightly bent in various manors, it makes the discard pile "poof up" taller than it would be if brand new cards were placed in the discard rack. Often you will observe a discard rack with what appears to be 7.5 of 8 decks in the tray, though in reality it is only 6.5 decks of cards because they have "poofed up" and become taller. I call it the "poofage factor" but i have never seen anybody discuss this effect. It is most notable when the discard tray will be completely full, but there is still 1 whole deck left undealt, this makes it very easy to erroneously figure a TC for an index near the end of the shoe.
    While this is likely true, also you should also be aware that cards from different casinos (manufacturers) can and, often do, have different thickness that can effect your TC. Many times dramatically.

    I have often spoken of error rates playing and this could easily contribute to TC errors that are harmful to your game.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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