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Thread: Is Blackjack Switch A Good One?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    There is a .19% HE version that you can probably gain a small edge at but unless you live in this area of the country not worth traveling to play. If it still exists probably in Northern extremes of the midwest.
    I have seen this game conveniently appear in the few areas of North America where I have played. I believe there is the .19% version in Ontario, as well as Southern california and perhaps a few in Vegas.

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    Whenever I find the better rule set for "B J Switch" it has always been with a C.S.M.

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    Strategy isn't simple. You have no count system (yet?) for this game. The game isn't super popular - not like you can play at a bunch of different casinos.

    You could do the work and figure out the EORs, a counting system, edge frequencies, etc. I imagine that'd take quite a bit of work, especially if you've never done anything like that before. And you may do all that work just to discover what people are saying in this thread -- stay away. Of course, on the other hand, you could really come up with something magnificent and play an awesome game.....but unfortunately, I don't think this will be the case.
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    Here is another factor to consider.


    In BJ Switch, each player has TWO hands that they must play.

    If there are 6 seats, (I think that 5 is more common

    it means that there will be 13 hands dealt per round !

    That is like playing BJ with 12 seats.

    In a regular BJ game the mean hand is
    5.4 cards.

    I do not think that it is quite as high in this game.

    I will assume 5 cards for ease of use. Probably less.

    13 X 5 = 65 So if the game is 6 decks and the dealer

    cuts off about 1.5 decks, that means that when the ASM

    spits out the next shoe, you've played about 4 rounds

    at a full table before the cut card pops up.

    Do you want to attempt counting that ?

    ERROR: 5.4, not 5.2
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    I thought the average was ~2.7 cards per hand in regular BJ?

    5 seems way too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    I thought the average was ~2.7 cards per hand in regular BJ?

    5 seems way too high.
    Switch you have to play 2 hands per spot so you can have two hands to switch. That doubles the cards per spot except for the dealer. The switching may have a minor affect but it may even out. T,x and y,T stiff hands against a dealer stiff become a pat hand and a hit hand if the hands are a switch hand. Without the switch you probably would have stood on both. Just one example of how taking cards will be affected in Switch.

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    I am currently working on a study of the game. The EOR of the 2 is higher than regular BJ. For example, the 5 is bad as a dealer hit card or a player dealt card, but it's very good as an upcard. The 2 is bad as a player dealt card, or a hit card for the dealer (not as bad as the five) but it is not nearly as good as an upcard as regular blackjack. I believe it's close to neutral, like seeing an 8.
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    tldr version: yeah, it might be a game, but not nearly as good as BJ, you have to learn a complex strategy, there aren't a ton of places that have it, they probably won't take action, and the forced 2 hands hurts your risk-adjusted winrate a lot.
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    Yeah that's the other problem casinos aren't used to big action at this. Same goes for Spanish 21 at a lot of places. They just aren't comfortable.

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