Yeah quitting is never an option for success.....changing direction, sure.......giving up.....not so much.Originally Posted by Yopp-Secret 572
Keep it up Yopp. I'd recommend switching to a balanced count, although I do know of a player with moderate success using KO. Nevertheless, having good deck estimation is an important skill for learning more advanced techniques later on (tracking), which is why I use a balanced count.
Fwiw, as I mentioned before, I know tons of APs using simple Hi Lo with huge success stories to tell, red chip- black chip.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm of the opinion that the even the extra time spent to learn a more complex count could be used towards table time/scouting, which in it of yourself gives immediate gains vs spending more time practicing.
No, you are not in the minority, MasterH. Most of those of us that play professionally or even semi-professionally, but seriously, know or know of many other successful players that also play seriously and the majority of them play Hi-lo.
That is one of the things that always frustrates me about this debate. Usually those other players don't want to be bothered weighing in, when there opinion would carry some weight. And when they don't weigh in, then this small minority that wants to use the super-duper, level 4.5 alpha mega count, takes over and screams the loudest and the newer players end up walking down the wrong road and off a cliff. Frutsrates the hell out of me.
BTW, I don't think I ever got the chance to welcome you either here or at WoV, although I did lobby for one of the mods over there to look into and remedy that early situation with you, which obviously was some kind of mistake.
YOPP, earlier today, you declared yourself a legend (in jest). I don't know about that, but you have managed to get the attention of some big names in the community whether you know it or not. That makes you at least pretty lucky as compared to many newbs. Try to take advantage of that.
Also, I thank you for pointing out that Eliot and Bill Zender have teamed up. I did not know that. I am not sure what to think of that. I have great respect for one and little for the other. I wonder if that's a one time thing or some type of permanent partnership. Anyone?
Last edited by KJ; 07-01-2015 at 05:13 PM.
MasterH, I tried the Red7 for a little over a week and I won while using it, but now I have been learning Hi OPT2 seems to be good from how little I know so far. But thanks again, and as soon as I am ready. I will keep everyone posted as to the SUCCESS.
As for Tthree, I sure wish I could screen shot emails and post them here. It bothers me that continually make assumptions, then don't have the ***** to hold on to them when called out on it. You can think what you like, but I know why and that's all that matters. I can and will say this, I would never take advantage of anyone's personal information or their trust. Now, enough said on that subject, I have a count to learn.
I think it's a smart business decision on their part.
Zman is a people person, well-respected and trusted by most.
Jacobsen is despised by many, but knows his math.
So, the two together make a good team, with Zman doing all the talking and Jman doing the number crunching in a basement somewhere
T3....look what you just did.
MasterH asked what level you play and what your real life experience and results were to justify the way you talk down to us and explain to us all just how smart you are every chance you get, and your response was to write another long post telling us how smart you are. I tried to point that out a couple months ago, that your actual experience and results didn't seem to meet the level required for you to be posting as if you have had a lifetime of success in the blackjack field and I looked like the bully for picking on you.
I, personally don't mind if you are smart and I guess you are. I figure every single person on the site is smarter than me, so I am use to and completely ok with that. But I think what is evident from this thread is that I am not alone in being tired of you constantly telling us how smart you are, as if you have some sort of track record of great success to back up all these words of expertise, when it doesn't appear that you do.
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