Why are stations casino in Las Vegas able to offer lower limits on their 2 deck game?

**Coundos** · 05-18-2015, 07:40 PM

People who are attracted to five dollar games are attracted to the idea of gambling but are still afraid. Many times, a five dollar n0ob will bet more if they end up on a hot streak and then lose it. By then, they are hooked and the potential to gain more nickels is there.

**Aslan** · 05-18-2015, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Coundos

People who are attracted to five dollar games are attracted to the idea of gambling but are still afraid.

My fear of gambling (at blackjack even when counting cards) became my more frequent associate the more I played the game until at the last it became my constant companion.

**Coundos** · 05-18-2015, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Aslan

My fear of gambling (at blackjack even when counting cards) became my more frequent associate the more I played the game until at the last it became my constant companion.

Indeed. I was just communicating a sociological truth. I'm here because I understand that the game is beatable but have just started the learning process, but many people play the game who do it for fun or based on a whim.

I think your quote would be well associated with a Hulk meme ("That's my secret, I am always afraid).

**hobs** · 05-19-2015, 11:25 AM

Yep, because they 'heart' locals, and thumbs up to the early am oyster bar!

**hobs** · 05-19-2015, 11:42 AM

Yep, because they 'heart' locals. And thumbs way up to that early am oyster bar! More intriguing, however, is Palace Station's blackjack side bet 'push your luck'. May be the only casino currently in Vegas that offers it. 10 to 1 payouts on any player/dealer 'push'? Seems vulnerable to heads up game, lots of pushes, most importantly ties tend to be gregarious during one on one play. There's a reason, but for now . . . 'just sayin'. May not be in business forever. Seems, for the moment, to be popular in Arizona and Washington state.

**Stealth** · 05-19-2015, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by hobs

More intriguing, however, is Palace Station's blackjack side bet 'push your luck'. May be the only casino currently in Vegas that offers it. 10 to 1 payouts on any player/dealer 'push'?

I believe pushes occur about 8% of the time. So rough math is: at a 100 HPH I lose 92 win 8 at $25 each therefore I lose -2300, win 2000 = net loss 300 on 2500 in action = -12% house edge. Could be pushes occur more frequently at higher counts and improve the situation....?

Does not appear good to me.

**hobs** · 05-19-2015, 01:52 PM

Not sure exactly, think it would be closer 11 losses to 1 win, 10 or so percent loss in the long run, but that would be if these numbers came up equally distributed, in no particular order (random). But that is just not the case with these cards. Au contraire, and to the point, they tend to bleed toward a precisely engineered balance, compliments of their designers. See 'challenging author-ity' post and replies from earlier today, if'n you like.

**Three** · 05-19-2015, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by hobs

Not sure exactly, think it would be closer 11 losses to 1 win, 10 or so percent loss in the long run, but that would be if these numbers came up equally distributed, in no particular order (random).

10% is nine loses for every win. 11 loses for every win is 8.33% win rate.

**hobs** · 05-19-2015, 02:58 PM

Thank you for the correction. Yes, one dollar lost for every 12 dollars bet would be closer to 8.33% loss rate, if that's what you meant ... and all that you gleaned from that particular 'message'.

**Bodarc** · 05-19-2015, 04:15 PM

I can see now that hobs is going to enlighten the forum.

**hobs** · 05-20-2015, 04:37 AM

Unlikely.

**Stealth** · 05-20-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by hobs

Not sure exactly, think it would be closer 11 losses to 1 win, 10 or so percent loss in the long run, but that would be if these numbers came up equally distributed, in no particular order (random). But that is just not the case with these cards. Au contraire, and to the point, they tend to bleed toward a precisely engineered balance, compliments of their designers. See 'challenging author-ity' post and replies from earlier today, if'n you like.

If you are asking me, then no. If you are telling me, then thank you.

KJ · 05-20-2015, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by hobs

More intriguing, however, is Palace Station's blackjack side bet 'push your luck'. May be the only casino currently in Vegas that offers it. 10 to 1 payouts on any player/dealer 'push'? Seems vulnerable to heads up game, lots of pushes, most importantly ties tend to be gregarious during one on one play. There's a reason, but for now . . . 'just sayin'. May not be in business forever. Seems,

Better stick to baseball, Roy.