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    I guess with the movie 21... if they had seen it... they might equate you to that. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJer View Post
    I tried it on an interview this AM. She was impressed and her eyes got big. lol.
    Hopefully your read was spot on. Sometimes you get a polite response to things and misread the persons actual feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Hopefully your read was spot on. Sometimes you get a polite response to things and misread the persons actual feelings.
    Well she is going to be sending me out on interviews. The remainder of the interview went well. Anyway I'll be finding out fairly soon.
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    One response I have anticipated but haven't actually dealt with is "if you can count cards why are you applying for a job here?". I think the question is pretty standard and quite often other things are substituted in instead of card counting. I don't think it would be terribly difficult to respond to this, but I'm interested in how everyone would respond to this one. I acknowledge the answer definitely depends quite a lot on your situation as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    One response I have anticipated but haven't actually dealt with is "if you can count cards why are you applying for a job here?". I think the question is pretty standard and quite often other things are substituted in instead of card counting. I don't think it would be terribly difficult to respond to this, but I'm interested in how everyone would respond to this one. I acknowledge the answer definitely depends quite a lot on your situation as a whole.
    I'd just be upfront with them and tell them it's way too much of a rocky road. Too many swings in BR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    One response I have anticipated but haven't actually dealt with is "if you can count cards why are you applying for a job here?". I think the question is pretty standard and quite often other things are substituted in instead of card counting. I don't think it would be terribly difficult to respond to this, but I'm interested in how everyone would respond to this one. I acknowledge the answer definitely depends quite a lot on your situation as a whole.
    I would answer that it's a zero variance way to bring home money.

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    I'm a little late to this discussion but I'm still gunna come in with a dissenting opinion. I'd agree that it might not be the appropriate thing to bring up in every interview, but that doesn't mean it couldn't work as a nice soft factor. Especially if you're considering yourself lacking in "soft factors" in an app like you don't have many big hobbies or things that make you stand out, this could be the opportunity to do so.

    No offense to the vets who have commented earlier, but IMO it seems like many are making a mountain out of a mole hill. First of all, I think almost everybody in America at least is familiar with card counting being potentially profitable. Many certainly don't know the actual math behind it and haven't done the research on the long run, but you have. Why let that hurt you? If you can make a great case for yourself and present it as something you're passionate about or that makes you tick or a variety of other cliches, odds are it could be a home run attempt to set yourself apart.

    The somewhat unrealistic image that comes up is in 21 where he's applying for Harvard and tells his story to the admission guy supposedly. I'm not saying that's necessarily legit or that you should go that route, but if you've had 1000 dollar swings and been down and been up, that could be application gold for grad school or a job. I think many here are being too shortsighted and viewing card counting as some elite club that if you're not in you can never even get talked to about. Connections to a dealer? Seriously? We're taking about a job interview in IT. I say go for it, just be sure to reign it in if you sense them taking it the wrong way. Focus on your dedication, perseverance, and what you learned in general from devoting so much time to BJ, not the dollars risked that might make you seem like a loose cannon. To completely ignore it to me would be the bigger crime. Good luck anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by BramSToker View Post
    I'm a little late to this discussion but I'm still gunna come in with a dissenting opinion. I'd agree that it might not be the appropriate thing to bring up in every interview, but that doesn't mean it couldn't work as a nice soft factor. Especially if you're considering yourself lacking in "soft factors" in an app like you don't have many big hobbies or things that make you stand out, this could be the opportunity to do so.

    No offense to the vets who have commented earlier, but IMO it seems like many are making a mountain out of a mole hill. First of all, I think almost everybody in America at least is familiar with card counting being potentially profitable. Many certainly don't know the actual math behind it and haven't done the research on the long run, but you have. Why let that hurt you? If you can make a great case for yourself and present it as something you're passionate about or that makes you tick or a variety of other cliches, odds are it could be a home run attempt to set yourself apart.

    The somewhat unrealistic image that comes up is in 21 where he's applying for Harvard and tells his story to the admission guy supposedly. I'm not saying that's necessarily legit or that you should go that route, but if you've had 1000 dollar swings and been down and been up, that could be application gold for grad school or a job. I think many here are being too shortsighted and viewing card counting as some elite club that if you're not in you can never even get talked to about. Connections to a dealer? Seriously? We're taking about a job interview in IT. I say go for it, just be sure to reign it in if you sense them taking it the wrong way. Focus on your dedication, perseverance, and what you learned in general from devoting so much time to BJ, not the dollars risked that might make you seem like a loose cannon. To completely ignore it to me would be the bigger crime. Good luck anyway
    Thanks man.
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    I thought I would add to this topic because you guys might get a kick out of this. I recently interviewed for an internal position(promotion) at the company I work at.

    I met with several different people and new most of them as acquaintances but none were friends. I'd read this thread and decided I wouldn't be discussing BJ to avoid any negative association with gambling. During one of the interviews I was asked to speak about how I learn a new subject or skill and cite a specific example from my life.

    My mind went blank and all I could think of was card counting. I used it as an example and framed my interest as strictly theoretical.(not far from the truth because I don't have enough time to play too often) it was a good example to showcase how I could immerse myself in a topic and quickly learn a topic and apply the knowledge.

    The topic really interested the interviewer and he became more engaged in the conversation. I already had a good reputation at the office so, ultimately, I don't think this really helped me one way or the other.

    I did get the job though so maybe there's something to it




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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerplayer View Post
    I thought I would add to this topic because you guys might get a kick out of this. I recently interviewed for an internal position(promotion) at the company I work at.

    I met with several different people and new most of them as acquaintances but none were friends. I'd read this thread and decided I wouldn't be discussing BJ to avoid any negative association with gambling. During one of the interviews I was asked to speak about how I learn a new subject or skill and cite a specific example from my life.

    My mind went blank and all I could think of was card counting. I used it as an example and framed my interest as strictly theoretical.(not far from the truth because I don't have enough time to play too often) it was a good example to showcase how I could immerse myself in a topic and quickly learn a topic and apply the knowledge.

    The topic really interested the interviewer and he became more engaged in the conversation. I already had a good reputation at the office so, ultimately, I don't think this really helped me one way or the other.

    I did get the job though so maybe there's something to it




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    I suspect casinos have a more negative opinion of card counters than "civilian" companies. Why do you think they often include them in the same breath with cheaters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I suspect casinos have a more negative opinion of card counters than "civilian" companies. Why do you think they often include them in the same breath with cheaters?
    The casinos have the God-given right to have an advantage over players. Counters are just criminals who seek to violate the sanctity of the houses profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotEnoughHeat View Post
    The casinos have the God-given right to have an advantage over players. Counters are just criminals who seek to violate the sanctity of the houses profits.
    Hey, no religious posts. Especially worship of the God Ploppiripoffa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJer View Post
    I have a couple of interviews this week and was considering bringing it up if they ask what else I do. I find that people get really impressed when you tell them about it.

    What say you?
    I would advise against it because most of the public still sees card counting as "wrong". To the interviewer: this is a guy that gambles and "cheats", uses disguises, uses fake IDs, lies (to the casino), has been served with trespass notices, etc. Is this a guy that we want to hire? Also, many people in business (especially finance) know or have worked with people in the casino industry, and may "rat you out" to them. Remember, the interviewer probably has your REAL name and address from your resume. Do you want casinos knowing that stuff?

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