I wont mention the casino company, but I noticed I've clocked in 40 hours in total in 5 days in different locations with a minimum bet of hundred wonged in for comps. My question is can the Pit boss see my daily and weekly log and average win when he swiped my card. If, yes is it really that suspicious since i'm on "vacation" and ratholing anyway.
Depends on the Store your playing at. At my place the FS/Casino shift manager/ pit boss can see anything they want, anytime they want by accessing the small computer attached to each table. At other places the mini screen attached to the tables is only to "rate" you. When they are at that little adjustable kiosk looking machine they just swipe your card to "get you in" and you start earning points. This is where they put in what you bought in for/ chips you brought to the table/ what your wearing/ and your average bet. At MOST PLACES The machine attached to the table has little or no acceS to see a persons hours played, up/down for lifetime, average bet, average buy in, etc; They can just see what your "cash in" for that gaming day was . This is done mainly so they can keep track of your win/loss as accurately as possible but only for that "gaming day".Originally Posted by BlackHead
However, at many places If you see them at a computer in the middle of the pit (after coming to the computer attached to the table and jotting down your players card number/name) and going to the computer in the middle of the pit ( usually the place new cards, dice, and tissues are kept) then more than likely they are interested in you as a player and want to see what your up/down or how long you've been playing there. When at the computer in the middle of the pit they do have access to your average play time, average bet, home address, win loss over 30 days, 180 days, 365 days, and lifetime . As well as comps that you redeemed, and any "notes" that any other floor sup/pit boss/ casino shift manager had put on your file.
A good way to find out what's what is this:
Ask the floor sup for a comp to a restraunt on property, pack of cigs, or anything that costs money that you've seen someone comped before. You'll see him either:
A: jot down your players card # and take it to that computer I mentioned above in the middle of the pit and log Into their system to check your play/comps/etc and base the comp you asked for off of that.
Or
B: Get all of the information he/she needs right from the little computer attached to the table.
Hope this helps.
Tom
Extremely helpful. Thank you very much.
I have another question: if my account was once a joint account with another player (my spouse) would they be able to see her name on my account or mine on hers after separated? We play at different tables and act like strangers on occasion.
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Great, I was only paranoid then I began to think they can see every history change. I made the mistake early on to use the same address as a team member then realized that in retail stores, that information would group the customers.
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I am curious as to when countermeasures will start. There are two casinos I play at with a players card and have been doing so for about 18. months. Maybe because I was a newbie initially and did not win consistently, perhaps established myself a loser. In any case, I have had one losing session out of the last 10 at one casino and clearly, even after rat holing, I am significantly up at both. Still no sign of heat or major concerns at either. I do not know why this is so. Is it because I limit my sessions to an hour or so, is it because I never try to eom more than a few hundred dollars at any one session? After all, it does seem like they can see my record.
It could be both. It is impossible to know for sure. However, I do something similar to what you do. I lightly rathole regardless of winning or losing and when I hit a target amount of money on the plus side (including ratholed chips), I stop playing after the shoe has finished and immediately go to another casino. The way I see it, they know me and I do not want to take too much from them on any one trip. If I am not winning much, there is a chance that they do not care at all.
I keep track of my P/L on an excel spreadsheet like I suspect a lot of us do. However, I also input other numbers to analyze as well. I input the amount of times that I have won and lost at each particular casino and I also input "Average Gain per visit" and "Average Loss per visit." Ideally, I want the average losses to be bigger than the average gains. As long as the average gains are much more frequent than the average losses, this should be profitable. Also when I lose, I make sure several people know when I lost. I will say "I just lost X amount of dollars, is there any way I can get a comp?" I act a little emotional when I lose and blame luck, the cards, Obama, and anything else ploppies do when they lose so I sound like an idiot. If I win, I don't say much (though I know that others give advice that you should act happy as to imitate ploppies).
I went to 4 casinos on a trip once and won my preset max at almost all of them. As far as each casino was concerned, it was moderate amounts (of what they knew of due to modest ratholing). When added together however, it made for a nice payday.
Your win/loss can hang you if you play the same place a lot. You can control your win/loss. Wong in and give the player's card when you're losing. Rathole. Don't color up if you think they may guess you're leaving with less than you really have.
The Cash Cow.
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