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    after being backed off at bj at red rock casino las vegas what shsould i do??

    several months ago on a comped stay
    at red rock I was backed off the bj
    game.
    now I am given a comp again for room and
    a concert.
    should I play bj there????
    what should I do there????
    please advise.

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    1.) How much were you betting & what was your spread?
    2.) How long were your sessions there for at a time?
    3.) How frequently were you playing there before you got backed off?

    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    1.) How much were you betting & what was your spread?
    2.) How long were your sessions there for at a time?
    3.) How frequently were you playing there before you got backed off?

    Thanks...
    on average spread was 25 to 2 hands at
    125 or 150 on dd game.
    I played about 2 1/2 hrs before being backed off.

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    yeah that's a big spread buddy it's no surprise you got backed

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    You won't be allowed to play BJ. If you do you could be asked to pay for those comps after the fact. If you want to try playing BJ on that trip don't accept the comps. You should try starting at 2x25 and going to 1 hand if things go south. Spreading to 2 is a dead giveaway . One of their biggest red flags. DD games have a higher heat factor. If it is a great DD game playing 2.5 hours at a sitting is too long.

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    It's a classic case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
    Surveillance/Security and Marketing/Hosts do not communicate with each other.
    So even though you get offers in the mail or a Host may call once you arrive things may be different.
    Beware the fury of a patient man.

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    You can never play rated on that card again. Whether you can sneak back to play unrated or on a different player card at a later date depends on how well they know you and whether the people that know you are working.

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    First thing you should do, is not go blabbing all over a public forun where and when you got backed off. Serves no positive purpose for your longevity

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    Sometimes I think we get just a little too paranoid. When cheap casino's won't open a bj table when the one or two they have open are packed because they'd have to pay a dealer salary. When they only put 1 to 3 people overseeing the eye in the sky because they say they can't afford the $ 15 to 20 bucks an hour it cost them, do you think casinos are going to pay people to monitor every single gambling forum, ie craps, roulette, bj etc etc on the entire internet to grab someone's name and go back and check through all the records around a certain date to see who might have been backed off?

    Here's one ...I got backed off from the Golden Nugget in LV 3 weeks ago last Wednesday. I was spreading 10 bucks to 2 X 1,200. I was wearing a blue NYC cap and a yellow shirt, Elvis sun glasses and my name is Carl! That ought to keep some SOB busy for about 8 hours.

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    For one thing, you're cooked playing rated at any of the Station Casinos now. Best never to play rated unless the comps are awfully attractive playing there, and then you have to be double cautious to play under the radar. You have to decide whether the comps make up for the drop in EV due to being cautious, but I've done it before and it's worked out. OTOH, I know I've hurt myself sometimes for exercising too much caution, just because I was too lazy to move to another casino.

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    Aslan - Nice to see your post, old friend.

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    STill at it, Aslan. And thank you for the edit, Admin.

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    I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think you could:
    1) Go there and use the free room, concert ticket etc
    2) Play blackjack at a DIFFERENT casino, perhaps a busier strip one or whatever
    3) Play any non-blackjack gambling games at Red Rock, if you do play those games

    They're giving you a free room, why not take it? If you don't do #3, you'll eventually stop getting offers. Use them while you still get them. If you do play some Pai Gow, craps, etc then you might still continue to get comps. Just avoid the blackjack there (or other Station casinos). I've never heard of them giving something away for free (a room) and then have you pay for it for not gambling there??? They made the offer... but maybe it happens, I don't know.
    Vaya con Dios...

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