Thanks for all the input on my first Post on the subject. Well my main point was that barring in MOST cases seems to be much ado about nothing. I usually go to Vegas for two weeks twice a year. I've always seem to be a lil OVERLY concerned of barring (devaluing my expected win rate)....In twenty years I've been barred twice and not in the last 12 years...(and one DOESN'T count (the Barbary Coast!! This year I decided to ATTACK them hard (since I'm hoping this spring to build a house and I need EXTRA cash.) I think even if they do bar me I'll return for play several times (What can they do throw me in JAIL for cheating??) I'll really put up a fuss and scene in front of other non-counting players and that could hurt there reputation. I'm getting excited about this years December trip.