Her it is, last night I was at my local casino and had a better look at this side bet. I must say first that the game I play there is 8D, H17, 75% pen. Now the very interesting thing here is that the lucky ladies pay table is actually the good one so the game is very countable. Also, I think the max bet on the lucky ladies is at least 50$ (25$ blackjack table). I am using KO and only wong in on positive counts. As I saw on 888casino, its seems that the 8D LL with the good pay table is a positive game at TC +4 on hi-lo. I started playing it yesterday at RC 31 on KO (IRC 0). Am I doing this right? What is the KO 8D RC equivalent to TC+4 of hi lo? Thanks!