let's say you can surrender any pair that is a 'basic strategy split' for 80% of your bet. bet $100 get back $80. basic strategy is oddly defined in this case.


so basic strategy 80% surrenders are 66 v 2, 33 v 8, 77 v 8 and 88 v 9 & T (no surrender vs A). all other candidate hands have a higher than -.2 ev for hitting or splitting. aside from 33 v 8 and 77 v 8 (which are not basic strategy splits) all other potential 80% surrenders are only actual basic strategy splits.

as per the wiz's ev tables

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/1/

the expected loss for splitting 33 v 8 is
-.231843
the expected loss for hitting 33 v 8 is -.217242

How are these values going to change as the count gets higher? Will either increase to less than -.2 at higher counts?

Rule set is S17, DAS, DA2, ES10 as well as the rule I have been discussing. No hole card game but OBO.


Ev for splitting 66 v 2 is -.212560

How will this change as the count increases? Will it ever go higher than -.2 and when?