sebastian: Need advice/input from all professionals-What's that 1 thing you'll pass on

[sebastian]

Hi,

Thank you so much for checking out this thread. I've just recently got into counting and I know almost everyone is ahead by eons. You guys are the inspiration for me to learn.

I have one request and I'm a real fan on receiving advice from pros, and I'm sure almost everyone on the board will benefit from this thread.

What is your advice, that one nugget of gold, you'll pass on to another pro or a young counter on the come up? It can be about anything, the game itself, the casino, the repetoire, etc. Anything.

Thank you in advance!

"You want to learn from experience, but you want to learn from other people's experience when you can."

[Norm Wattenberger]

is that there isn't just one thing you really need to know

Any one of the following will mess you up:

[*]Overbetting/inadequate understanding of risk[*]Poor game selection[*]Too low a spread[*]Inadequate practice[*]Inadequate discipline[/list]

> Hi,

> Thank you so much for checking out this thread. I've
> just recently got into counting and I know almost
> everyone is ahead by eons. You guys are the
> inspiration for me to learn.

> I have one request and I'm a real fan on receiving
> advice from pros, and I'm sure almost everyone on the
> board will benefit from this thread.

> What is your advice, that one nugget of gold, you'll
> pass on to another pro or a young counter on the come
> up? It can be about anything, the game itself, the
> casino, the repetoire, etc. Anything.

> Thank you in advance!

> "You want to learn from experience, but you want
> to learn from other people's experience when you
> can."

[jblaze]

Bankroll management, realistic expectations, and an unwavering belief in yourself. (Read: knowing you've got an edge even after hitting a 3SD loss).

> is that there isn't just one thing you really need to
> know

> Any one of the following will mess you up:

> Overbetting/inadequate understanding of risk
> Poor game selection
> Too low a spread
> Inadequate practice
> Inadequate discipline
>

[Brick]

...or gravy for that matter. But then again I dont consider myself a real pro.

[Enzo]

1) Hit the best games hard while you can; they usually don't last forever.

2) Network with the best people you can find. Information is critical to your success.

3) Try to learn another form of AP besides straight card counting; diversification is a good thing.

4) Remember that the more aggressive players will outperform the least aggressive players by a very significant margin. The guys consistently making most the most money are the guys playing a strong game without excessive cover, getting the most backoffs, 86ing, Etc. If you are playing high stakes and this is not happening quite a bit, you are likely fooling yourself about what your edge really is.

5) Become an expert in generating cash from Casino marketting programs. At the higher bet levels it is am important source of income. When international players visit Vegas and leave complaining the games are not as good as the better rules games they are used to outside the U.S., it is clear to me that either they:

a) do not really understand how to milk the system in casinos across America.

b) are not playing at a high enough level to trigger the most valuable offers.

or

c) leave before they can benefit from the ongoing offers.

6) Be prepared to travel. Play the best game or two in a number of different markets. If you are good and successful in your home market you will want to travel to
other markets to stay in action.

7) Find some way to get to the higher bet levels. The games are usually better, coms are better, conditions less crowded. Hourly win rates are much higher.

Enzo

Hi,

> Thank you so much for checking out this thread. I've
> just recently got into counting and I know almost
> everyone is ahead by eons. You guys are the
> inspiration for me to learn.

> I have one request and I'm a real fan on receiving
> advice from pros, and I'm sure almost everyone on the
> board will benefit from this thread.

> What is your advice, that one nugget of gold, you'll
> pass on to another pro or a young counter on the come
> up? It can be about anything, the game itself, the
> casino, the repetoire, etc. Anything.

> Thank you in advance!

> "You want to learn from experience, but you want
> to learn from other people's experience when you
> can."

[David Spence]

Just one word: plastics.

> Hi,

> Thank you so much for checking out this thread. I've
> just recently got into counting and I know almost
> everyone is ahead by eons. You guys are the
> inspiration for me to learn.

> I have one request and I'm a real fan on receiving
> advice from pros, and I'm sure almost everyone on the
> board will benefit from this thread.

> What is your advice, that one nugget of gold, you'll
> pass on to another pro or a young counter on the come
> up? It can be about anything, the game itself, the
> casino, the repetoire, etc. Anything.

> Thank you in advance!

> "You want to learn from experience, but you want
> to learn from other people's experience when you
> can."

[OldCootFromVA]

Here, in order of importance, are the 3 ingredients of success:

1) "Luck";

2) Money Management; and

3) Skill.

[OldCootFromVA]

Your question got me to thinking; so here, in order of importance, are the FOUR ingredients of success:

1. DISCIPLINE

2. "Luck" (i.e., variance)

3. Money Management

4. Skill

[Don Schlesinger]

> Your question got me to thinking; so here, in order of
> importance, are the FOUR ingredients of success:

> 1. DISCIPLINE

> 2. "Luck" (i.e., variance)

> 3. Money Management

> 4. Skill

I'm pretty proficient at numbers 1, 3, and 4. Can you give me some advice as to how to improve number 2, please? :-)

Thanks.

Don

[Magician]

> I'm pretty proficient at numbers 1, 3, and 4. Can you
> give me some advice as to how to improve number 2,
> please? :-)

The beauty is, as long as you're properly bankrolled, the more you play the less it matters.

[OldCootFromVA]

> Can you give me some advice as to how to improve
> number 2, please? :-)

I can't, but there's a guy over on Wong's site who swears that you can, using astrology .

[Don Schlesinger]

> I can't, but there's a guy over on Wong's site who
> swears that you can, using astrology.

I read it. He's either brain-dead, or a troll, trying to foment trouble. More disturbing are the number of intelligent people who responded to him, not once but 10 times, trying to explain why he was wrong. I think those who responded are just as ridiculous, for perpetuating the thread, as the one who posted originally.

Write garbage like that on this site, and the whole thread lasts 30 seconds. ;-)

Don

[Zenfighter]

He's either brain-dead, or a troll, trying to foment trouble.

Given that approaching the laws of chance using shamans, witches, astrologers, pendulum swingers, etc, is a little bit out of fashion :-), your second option looks appropriate here. Dealing with these guys seems to be an inveterate problem that most Internet forums do have. Btw, feeding a troll with any type of answers is like trying to get rid of flames, by throwing more fuel inside. A hopeless strategy.

Zf