D: Passive Smoking - any ideas ?

[D]

After a few days at the tables I begin to suffer thanks to the chain-smokers at the tables. No, there are no non-smoking tables where I play.

Any fellow sufferers have any tips ? What to do before, during or after to avoid breathing like an asthmatic for days afterwards ?

Thanks

D

[Olympia]

> After a few days at the tables I begin to suffer
> thanks to the chain-smokers at the tables. No, there
> are no non-smoking tables where I play.

> Any fellow sufferers have any tips ? What to do
> before, during or after to avoid breathing like an
> asthmatic for days afterwards ?

> Thanks

> D

If you spot an empty table or one just opening up, request that it be made a non-smoking table. The dealer usually must ask the floorperson's permission to do so.

If the dealer is also a non-smoker (get to know is & who isn't, since you're a regular), this could be used as a technique to garner some deeper penetration (be creative). Empathy with the dealer is a plus.

[D]

The casinos I frequent are extra-smokey: the idea of "non-smoking table" does not exist.

I was hoping for some tips along the lines of "down 12 aspirin before you go" or "line your nostrils with cornflour" etc....

D

> If you spot an empty table or one just opening up,
> request that it be made a non-smoking table. The
> dealer usually must ask the floorperson's permission
> to do so.

> If the dealer is also a non-smoker (get to know is
> & who isn't, since you're a regular), this could
> be used as a technique to garner some deeper
> penetration (be creative). Empathy with the dealer is
> a plus.

[ES]

Second-hand smoke has bad long term effects. TWELVE aspirins will have bad IMMEDIATE effects. The NJ legislature may make Atlantic City's casinos go smoke-free. I have written letters to newspapers and members of the legislature in favor of making the casinos smoke-free.

[Myooligan]

> If the dealer is also a non-smoker (get to know is
> & who isn't, since you're a regular), this could
> be used as a technique to garner some deeper
> penetration (be creative).

Here's my question: In a recent post, Parker warned that if the dealer is deliberately showing you the hole card, it is collusion and against the law. Why wouldn't a successful attempt to get deeper penetration also be considered collusion?

[Sun Runner]

> Why wouldn't a successful attempt to get deeper
> penetration also be considered collusion?

Who said it wouldn't be. I think if collusion was provable you and the dealer would have some splainin' to do.

Of course collusion (which is a crime) is far different from a dealer maybe giving better penetration because you are a nice person and she happens to feel comfortable working for you. Isn't that the way most 'service business' works?

[Brick]

[Brick]

A smoke free casino would go broke.

[Parker]

> A smoke free casino would go broke.

That's what all the bar owners in California were saying a few years ago. The legislature passed a smoking ban anyway.

Business is better than ever.

[Parker]

> Here's my question: In a recent post, Parker warned
> that if the dealer is deliberately showing you the
> hole card, it is collusion and against the law. Why
> wouldn't a successful attempt to get deeper
> penetration also be considered collusion?

It is indeed a grey area, and a lot would depend on the degree and the circumstances. For example, suppose a casino instructed dealer to cut 1.0 to 1.5 decks on a 6D shoe. If a dealer increased pen from 1.5 to, say, 1.1 cut off, there would probably be no problem, since the dealer is still following established casino policy.

However, if the dealer started cutting off only half a deck, and only did it while you were at the table, this could possibly get you (and the dealer) in trouble.

[Myooligan]

I like Sun Runner's distinction. If you're able to get the dealer to feel comfortable around you and drop his/her guard, by tips or other means, that's one thing. If he or she knows you're counting but sends you the message, "More tips, more cards," that's over the line. But I assume it's standard practice, too, only because it'd be difficult to prove.

[ES]

> That's what all the bar owners in California were
> saying a few years ago. The legislature passed a
> smoking ban anyway.

> Business is better than ever.

Good!

[fatcat519]

> A smoke free casino would go broke.

At least one Ontario casino is smoke free since last September, (there is an outside covered smoking patio). Business may be down slightly, but they still seem to be doing okay.
In about a year's time all Ontario casinos will be smoke free; the provincial government is getting ready to enact a law to prohibit smoking in all indoor public spaces.
We'll wait and see what happens.