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    SpringWeatherBJ
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    SpringWeatherBJ: no limit to resplitting

    I was on a boat the other day and one of the dealers allowed players to resplit 8's into 6 hands (I was on a 6D). He mentioned that the player can resplit as many times as he'd like. What kind of advantage does this give? The game was also available in 8D. Thanks!

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: After 4, worth nothing

    > I was on a boat the other day and one of the
    > dealers allowed players to resplit 8's into
    > 6 hands (I was on a 6D). He mentioned that
    > the player can resplit as many times as he'd
    > like. What kind of advantage does this give?
    > The game was also available in 8D. Thanks!

    There is a law of diminishing returns with respect to resplits, simply because it is so very rare to ever get the chance to create more than, say, four hands.

    You could play your whole life and not the chance to split to a fifth hand.

    So, the practical answer is that it's worth virtually nothing.

    Don

    P.S. I've told this story many times: I was once playing DD at the Riviera and looked over to see a lone player with cards spread out over the entire layout. With only eight 7s in the two decks, he had split 7s to create SEVEN hands ... against the dealer's 10!!!! He lost them all! :-)

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    Wolverine
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    Wolverine: WOW

    > P.S. I've told this story many times: I was
    > once playing DD at the Riviera and looked
    > over to see a lone player with cards spread
    > out over the entire layout. With only eight
    > 7s in the two decks, he had split 7s to
    > create SEVEN hands ... against the dealer's
    > 10!!!! He lost them all! :-)

    All he had to do was SPLIT once and then HIT a couple of times and he would have had a nice pair of 21s! :-) The only thing better would have been if it was up against a DEALER 7 too!

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    SpringWeatherBJ
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    SpringWeatherBJ: Re: After 4, worth nothing

    Thanks for your response...I was thinking, what about if you split tens vs. bust cards when the count calls for it? The probability of getting ten value cards is high (especially in positive counts). Plus the benefit of splitting tens vs. 5's & 6's is high in high counts (I think). It seems then that this rule variation could be somewhat favorable. However, I have no idea what edge this would add to the game. It's probably on the order of hundreths of a percent and I shouldn't be concerned, but I would like to know. Thanks!

    > There is a law of diminishing returns with
    > respect to resplits, simply because it is so
    > very rare to ever get the chance to create
    > more than, say, four hands.

    > You could play your whole life and not the
    > chance to split to a fifth hand.

    > So, the practical answer is that it's worth
    > virtually nothing.

    > Don

    > P.S. I've told this story many times: I was
    > once playing DD at the Riviera and looked
    > over to see a lone player with cards spread
    > out over the entire layout. With only eight
    > 7s in the two decks, he had split 7s to
    > create SEVEN hands ... against the dealer's
    > 10!!!! He lost them all! :-)

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    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: After 4, worth nothing

    > Thanks for your response...I was thinking,
    > what about if you split tens vs. bust cards
    > when the count calls for it? The probability
    > of getting ten value cards is high
    > (especially in positive counts). Plus the
    > benefit of splitting tens vs. 5's & 6's
    > is high in high counts (I think). It seems
    > then that this rule variation could be
    > somewhat favorable. However, I have no idea
    > what edge this would add to the game. It's
    > probably on the order of hundreths of a
    > percent and I shouldn't be concerned, but I
    > would like to know. Thanks!

    Resplitting 10s indefinitely would certainly be the most valuable of all possible pair splits. But, at TCs of +5 or so, the move is just breakeven. How frequently do you figure you get a TC of, say, +8 to +10, the dealer shows 5 or 6, you get a pair of tens, and you get to split them to form, say, 5 or 6 hands total?

    It simply isn't going to show up on the radar screen.

    Don

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