Electric Kid: Cellini R.I.P.

[Cardkountr]

> Although it was only in one issue of BJF,
> his review of the Vegas casinos and their
> surveillance departments was insightful, to
> say the least. It's a shame that he never
> completed the next issue, i.e., the AC
> surveillance crew reviews.

> I have two copies of that issue, and I'll be
> damned that I can't find either one at the
> moment, especialy since I keep one with me
> on all my Vegas trips, even though it's a
> little outdated (maybe), but probably not by
> much. Senior moments....

I think you may be referring to the Summer 2003 issue which contained the charts listing all of the casino surveillance on pages 10 thru 18. If so, you should still be able to buy that issue from Huntington Press. Let me know if you can't get it and I'll be happy to copy those pages for you and send them to you by email.

Also if it's not the Summer 2003 issue you're interested in, please advise me as I have the complete set as well as some extra copies of some issues. So I could either copy those pages from my set or if what you're looking for happens to be one of my extra copies i'll send the entire issue to you.

Best Regards,

Card.

[Sun Runner]

I appreciate that very much.

Sometimes I let myself get off track when I personalize my replies to pointedly, but in the end I'm really just a seeker like everyone else, groping around in the dark, trying to figure things out.

Thanks for the note.

[Cardkountr]

> SR,

> Your postings have always seemed to the
> point and solid. No brag, no boast, no
> bluster. I know nothing about Cellini but I
> take your response as the humane view a
> sensible person should and would take. That
> view probably doesn't help the cards but it
> certainly doesn't hurt to store up some good
> feeling and respect for others. My best to
> you.

> Sam

Very well said Sam!

Best Regards,

Card.

[Radar]

Ever sense I came to this site you and Ignacio have been bad-mouthing Cellini, Toddler, Molly, and anyone else that associates with them!

You have absolutely no class. The man dies and you continue to carry-on as you do.

What has any of them done to you? Have they ridiculed you in public? Told lies about you? What?

It is apparent to me that jealousy plays a big part in your despisement of these people. Jealousy, in that people can't say the same, upbeat things about you that Cellini's friends did about him.

First, you have to EARN their respect.

Ignacio...ehr, Ouches, how about for once in your life you let it go?

I doubt, seriously, that you are capable.

Radar

[Radar]

> Is his book worth buying? Is the material
> dated?

I paid the $95 for it and have read it over and over again. That should tell you something.

Once you read and "half-way" understand the book, you will never look at a casino the same way again. Now, I say "half-way" because Cellini is adept at making you 'read-between-the-lines'.

He is very humorous, as well. For me it was worth more than the money I paid for it!

[Ouchez]

> Ever sense I came to this site you and
> Ignacio have been bad-mouthing Cellini,
> Toddler, Molly, and anyone else that
> associates with them!

> You have absolutely no class. The man dies
> and you continue to carry-on as you do.

> What has any of them done to you? Have they
> ridiculed you in public? Told lies about
> you? What?

> It is apparent to me that jealousy plays a
> big part in your despisement of these
> people. Jealousy, in that people can't say
> the same, upbeat things about you that
> Cellini's friends did about him.

> First, you have to EARN their respect.

> Ignacio...ehr, Ouches, how about for once in
> your life you let it go?

> I doubt, seriously, that you are capable.

> Radar

the highest level of confidentiality and loyalty. A man who worked beside me decided to go against those values and I readily assisted in sending him to prison. It is my view that Cellinnni violated those codes, which to me are sacred under any circumstances.

I do know the people I speak about, and I do not fall for their lines of *pure* BS and posing! I will be playin BJ this weekend with a few of the greatest, REAL players, in the country. How about you, been playin... much? (I mean really playin, not just practicing on the computer, like *casino* time, real money, real play...hmmmm?)

Have a GREAT day, Radar. :-)

Strength and Honor,
Ouchez.

[Laughlin Marauder]

All I can say is how dissapointed I am in Ouchez. Celini hurt no one except the card counter catchers... I would say that your behavior in this regard has been unconscionable.

And what does your playing time or circle of friends in the 21 community have to do with the value of your opinion of Celini? I personally play 30 - 40 hours a week of BJ, does this make me more qualified of an opinion of the man than you or anyone else?

This soap box of confidentiality in regards to gov't secrets vs. Casino Counter Catching is ridiculous. I have read far too much from you to know that you should be above this.

Dissapointed
LM

[Radar]

> I do know the people I speak about, and I do
> not fall for their lines of *pure* BS and
> posing!

Where did you meet them? Seems very "few" people have ever met Cellini in person. Have you met with and got to know Toddler, Molly, or anyone else who associated with Cellini? Funny, but I don't see them speaking ill of you even though you continue to trash them. There's a big lesson there.

>I will be playin BJ this weekend
> with a few of the greatest, REAL players, in
> the country. How about you, been playin...
> much? (I mean really playin, not just
> practicing on the computer, like *casino*
> time, real money, real play...hmmmm?)

I don't have a NEED to brag about any time I play and with whom. As such, you will just have to "wonder".

> Have a GREAT day, Radar. :-)

> Strength and Honor,
> Ouchez. (Ignacio)

What strength? What honor?

[Parker]

You guys wanna take it outside?

Private e-mail, perhaps? Some other website?

I don't really care where, as long as it leaves here now.