Sun Runner: News

[Sun Runner]

Here is a story picked up from the BJ21 newsletter.

Circa 1999, it touches on quite a few interesting topics ...

-NFL stars, big bets, big money

-the writer did not call counters and ST'ers 'cheaters'

-a dealer gets fired for NOT shuffling up on a player

-fired dealer gets a small win at the court house

(Note to ETF, if your listening .. here is an example of a not so scummy casino employee. Thought you might want to drive down and congratulate her personally!)

Short, but interesting. You will have to copy and paste the link .. I'm not geeky enough to make it easy for you.

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...ss/9726279.htm

[Bettie]

We had a couple of phone calls from reporters regarding this issue ? not from this paper, though. I don't recall who called, as they interviewed Viktor. Maybe a quick search will turn up something.

Bettie

[Ouchez]

> Here is a story picked up from the BJ21
> newsletter.

> Circa 1999, it touches on quite a few
> interesting topics ...

> -NFL stars, big bets, big money

> -the writer did not call counters and ST'ers
> 'cheaters'

> -a dealer gets fired for NOT shuffling up on
> a player

> -fired dealer gets a small win at the court
> house

> (Note to ETF, if your listening .. here is
> an example of a not so scummy casino
> employee. Thought you might want to drive
> down and congratulate her personally!)

> Short, but interesting. You will have to
> copy and paste the link .. I'm not geeky
> enough to make it easy for you.

>
> http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunhera...ss/9726279.htm

to MP about his saying how much more "secure" GC is over the "free" pages. That there are fewer casino spies on GC. I *suppose* that may be true..to a point. I have reason to believe that most, if not all casinos have access to GC. That *other* site will sell access to anyone with a few dollars, that is why they shill so endlessly.

Now look at Dons Domain, I feel very secure posting on that site, very secure, because I know this site cares about who they sell access to. That is also the history of this site. That is why I support this site with my money, in the form of subscribtion. I wish more would do the same because on DD you can safely say what you would like and truly feel secure.

Strength and Honor,
Ouchez.

[paranoid android]

I don't believe it would be too hard to for a casino employee to get access to either site. I don't recall RGE doing a background check on me when I got signed up for DD. At least none that I know of. ;-) At the same time, I don't have any reason to believe that casino employees lurk over there. I don't think they have a lot to be gained by doing so (which is not to say that there isn't a lot to be gained by counters).

> to MP about his saying how much more
> "secure" GC is over the
> "free" pages. That there are fewer
> casino spies on GC. I *suppose* that may be
> true..to a point. I have reason to believe
> that most, if not all casinos have access to
> GC. That *other* site will sell access to
> anyone with a few dollars, that is why they
> shill so endlessly.

> Now look at Dons Domain, I feel very secure
> posting on that site, very secure, because I
> know this site cares about who they sell
> access to. That is also the history of this
> site. That is why I support this site with
> my money, in the form of subscribtion. I
> wish more would do the same because on DD
> you can safely say what you would like and
> truly feel secure.

> Strength and Honor,
> Ouchez.

[Parker]

> Now look at Dons Domain, I feel very secure
> posting on that site, very secure, because I
> know this site cares about who they sell
> access to. That is also the history of this
> site. That is why I support this site with
> my money, in the form of subscribtion. I
> wish more would do the same because on DD
> you can safely say what you would like and
> truly feel secure.

While we don't knowingly sell DD memberships to casino personnel, and Don quickly gives the boot to anyone discovered to be a casino spy, there is still no guarantee of security in the main area of Don's Domain. Members should excercise caution in discussing sensitive matters.

Green Belt/Don's Domain Pro is an entirely different matter.

[Brick Waller]

they also post all over the internet. I was a member of DD and GC before and I can assure you that casino employees also like to troll,play mind games and toss flames. Bill and Cellini(x-casino employees)acknowledged this long ago.

Don's place is more down to earth and will evaluate your previous postings before letting you join. Sometimes it's as plain as pudding when determining who the real card counters are and who the alias trolls are. It sure dont take a genious to figure it out. Of course they lurk,anyone who thinks they dont is quite gullible to say the least.

On another note regarding the subject of the thread,it truly shows how ignorant and voodoo-istic casino mangement can be. They somehow believed not changing the shuffle caused them to lose against a big high rolling ploppy. So let's say the dealer did listen and changed the shuffle only for the casino take a beating twice as bad as the first,then what!? Does dealer get fired by the upper hand for changing the mandatory house shuffle and blamed for more loses!?

Nothing but a bunch of sore losers if you ask me.

Brick

[Bettie]

> Bill and Cellini (x-casino
> employees) acknowledged this long ago.

At least some are very respectful of our wish for privacy. Though no longer a casino employee, Bill Zender doesn't come to our chats or any of the employee-related things we've invited him to (like Don's book party), out of respect for Don's wish to remain private. Whatta guy!

Bettie

[Brick Waller]

That's what I've observed in the past. Don is not likely to jump the gun and enlighten people with brilliant answers when he suspects a casino troll is at hand(thanks Don),however, many self proclaimed pro's at other websites will try to show off their wisdom of how brilliant they THINK they are by enlightening anyone who ask anything about everything,regardless of to whom it may concern.

Example:

"I'm a card counter and use the Uston apc with 550 index numbers and going to Vegas. Hey,what's the besy way to catch card counters and the crapiest conditions casinos offer to eliminate them? How many of you guys are on teams and win big money? Me thinking about starting a team myself,how do you do it and can I really win using card counting.

Daffy Duck"

Now watch the so called pro's try to enlighten this troll with (what I call) pure and STUPID brilliance. Don knows what I'm talking about,many have tried to set him up in a trap at other BJ message boards but he was not so gullible.

Good day Bettie,
Brick