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    Battery
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    Battery: Losing the count

    I am satisfied with my counting skill level (Hi-Lo) and other parts of my game but still have one hurdle to overcome. I've never seen it mentioned here.

    When the dealer plays out his hand, I do the addition to verify that no mistakes are being made. Especially when the dealer has a five or six card hand (7, 9, 12, 13, 15, bust) I sometimes forget what the count is.

    Has anyone else run into this and could offer a solution?

  2. #2
    Parker
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    Parker: The secret

    > I am satisfied with my counting skill level
    > (Hi-Lo) and other parts of my game but still
    > have one hurdle to overcome. I've never seen
    > it mentioned here.

    > When the dealer plays out his hand, I do the
    > addition to verify that no mistakes are
    > being made. Especially when the dealer has a
    > five or six card hand (7, 9, 12, 13, 15,
    > bust) I sometimes forget what the count is.

    > Has anyone else run into this and could
    > offer a solution?

    1. Practice
    2. Practice
    3. Practice

    It's just that simple. There are no trick methods, and There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

  3. #3
    Norm Wattenberger
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    Norm Wattenberger: Re: Losing the count


    Two additions to CVBJ in the last release are aimed at this problem. The first is an option that forces lots of many-card hands to be dealt. This forces you to practice counting cards and adding hands at the same time. Many people - even some long time players - have told me they have difficulty in this area. The second is the addition of three additional types of dealer error. Many people don't bother adding up the dealer hand, particularly if there are several cards. They trust the dealer. This can be costly considering the enormous expansion in casinos. The dealer error feature forces you to count the dealer cards since you will receive warnings if you fail to catch them.



  4. #4
    quark
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    quark: Re: Losing the count

    > The dealer error feature forces you
    > to count the dealer cards since you will
    > receive warnings if you fail to catch them.

    What do you mean by "You will receive warnings"? You mean warnings when you don't catch them "right away"... or what? I don't get it.

  5. #5
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: Dealer errors


    > What do you mean by "You will receive
    > warnings"? You mean warnings when you
    > don't catch them "right away"...
    > or what? I don't get it.

    CVBJ optionally generates four types of dealer errors at random. If you see the dealer make an error, you click on an error button. If you do not click on the button before the next hand begins, the error is displayed and counted. The errors are close calls and easy to miss if you're not paying close attention. These are, of course, in addition to playing, betting and cover errors. So you are tested on all at once. You can also set CV to automatically deal the next hand after a short period if you are not fiddling with your chips to increase the pressure. If you are fiddling with your chips, the dealer will pause as would most normal dealers.



  6. #6
    quark
    Guest

    quark: Re: Dealer errors

    Oh... I get it now. I have to admit that I have NOT purchased any software from you... but everytime I ask a question about your products... it never ceases to amaze me how "neat" they really are. You are (along with Schlesinger) one of THE most HONORABLE people in the Blackjack biz. Thanks for all your insights.

    > CVBJ optionally generates four types of
    > dealer errors at random. If you see the
    > dealer make an error, you click on an error
    > button. If you do not click on the button
    > before the next hand begins, the error is
    > displayed and counted. The errors are close
    > calls and easy to miss if you're not paying
    > close attention. These are, of course, in
    > addition to playing, betting and cover
    > errors. So you are tested on all at once.
    > You can also set CV to automatically deal
    > the next hand after a short period if you
    > are not fiddling with your chips to increase
    > the pressure. If you are fiddling with your
    > chips, the dealer will pause as would most
    > normal dealers.

  7. #7
    Mister M
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    Mister M: CVBJ3.0

    C'mon Quark, Do yourself a favour and make the purchase. Norm's range is the best available.

    P.S Thanks for the chess advice. Much Appreciated.

  8. #8
    Mr. Ed
    Guest

    Mr. Ed: Re: Losing the count

    Use your fingers on your leg under the table. Use your thumb for 5. Use your right hand for positive numbers and left hand for negative numbers. If the count is more than 9, keep track of tens on the other hand.

    I had exactly the same problem - I could never add and keep the count at the same time. Sometimes I just ask the dealer, "how much is that?"

    > I am satisfied with my counting skill level
    > (Hi-Lo) and other parts of my game but still
    > have one hurdle to overcome. I've never seen
    > it mentioned here.

    > When the dealer plays out his hand, I do the
    > addition to verify that no mistakes are
    > being made. Especially when the dealer has a
    > five or six card hand (7, 9, 12, 13, 15,
    > bust) I sometimes forget what the count is.

    > Has anyone else run into this and could
    > offer a solution?

  9. #9
    Franz Joseph
    Guest

    Franz Joseph: Re: Losing the count

    I have had this problem.

  10. #10
    PunkEye
    Guest

    PunkEye: Re: Losing the count

    > I am satisfied with my counting skill level
    > (Hi-Lo) and other parts of my game but still
    > have one hurdle to overcome. I've never seen
    > it mentioned here.

    > When the dealer plays out his hand, I do the
    > addition to verify that no mistakes are
    > being made. Especially when the dealer has a
    > five or six card hand (7, 9, 12, 13, 15,
    > bust) I sometimes forget what the count is.

    > Has anyone else run into this and could
    > offer a solution?

    I had to come up with my own personal remedy to address this problem. It works for me but it may not work for you. When counting the dealer's hand, look for cards that add up to ten; let's say 8&3=T+1=11 or 8&5=T+3=13, followed by the stray cards. It will be slow going at first but when your brain becomes conditioned through the process of repititon, it is a no-brainer. For tracking positive and negative counts, that's easy. Positive counts are counted in English whereas negative counts are counted in German. And I never engage a recount at the table just to check if I made a mistake.

  11. #11
    Norm Wattenberger
    Guest

    Norm Wattenberger: What!!!

    > Positive counts are counted in English
    > whereas negative counts are counted in
    > German.

    Positive counts are counted in German and negative in English

  12. #12
    Adam N. Subtractum
    Guest

    Adam N. Subtractum: How bout...

    > Positive counts are counted in German and
    > negative in English

    ...plus counts in German, neg counts in Spanish, hand totals in English, and a sidecount in Japanese...and lemme have a White Russian while I'm at it!

    ANS

  13. #13
    PunkEye
    Guest

    PunkEye: Re: How bout...

    > ...plus counts in German, neg counts in
    > Spanish, hand totals in English, and a
    > sidecount in Japanese...and lemme have a
    > White Russian while I'm at it!

    > ANS
    Maybe what I really need is an accountant with hindsight?

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