What is the most important factor in blackjack, good penetration (combined with acceptable spread) or good rules?
I.e., which game is most favourable; a six deck game offering 85% penetration, where the casino's got a 1,2% edge, or a six deck game offering with 50% penetration, where the casino's edge is 0,2%?
Are there any possibilities to mathematically calculate the odds depending on the penetration?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards, Robert V. Lux
I don't know for sure, but I have read several posts regarding pen as more important, and I believe I read something about figuring pen into advantage, If I find it I'll post the link.
> What is the most important factor in
> blackjack, good penetration (combined with
> acceptable spread) or good rules?
> I.e., which game is most favourable; a six
> deck game offering 85% penetration, where
> the casino's got a 1,2% edge, or a six deck
> game offering with 50% penetration, where
> the casino's edge is 0,2%?
> Are there any possibilities to
> mathematically calculate the odds depending
> on the penetration?
> Thanks in advance.
> Best regards, Robert V. Lux
Go to the link below. Click on Calculators and look at the Counting Results or Income calculator. Or click on tables and look at the summary tables. All of these allow specification of strategy, rules, penetration and spread.
> Are there any possibilities to
> mathematically calculate the odds depending
> on the penetration?
The questions you ask indicate that you have never really read any of the advanced books on BJ, including my own BJA. I keep suggesting to you that you acquire some of these books, where all of the questions that you ask are answered.
Have you made any effort to do so?
Don
> The questions you ask indicate that you have
> never really read any of the advanced books
> on BJ, including my own BJA. I keep
> suggesting to you that you acquire some of
> these books, where all of the questions that
> you ask are answered.
I have only played blackjack for four years, and haven't yet got the mathematical skills to fully understand complex mathematical formulas that are involved in blackjack.
> Have you made any effort to do so?
Yes, I have got your book. Though I have only read the prolouge. Your book is in a line. Yet, I have some books to read before I get to yours.
Best regards, Robert V. Lux
> I have only played blackjack for four years,
> and haven't yet got the mathematical skills
> to fully understand complex mathematical
> formulas that are involved in blackjack.
> Yes, I have got your book. Though I have
> only read the prolouge. Your book is in a
> line. Yet, I have some books to read before
> I get to yours.
Robert, I would suggest that you put Don's book at the head of the line, especially if you are going out and putting money down in the betting square. It will pay dividends for you.
> Robert, I would suggest that you put Don's
> book at the head of the line, especially if
> you are going out and putting money down in
> the betting square. It will pay dividends
> for you.
Well, since I am a minor, I don't rush. I know that Mr. Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack is a very good book on blackjack. Though, I prefer reading not so advanced books before I read his, kind of complicated book.
/Robert V. Lux.
> Well, since I am a minor, I don't rush. I
> know that Mr. Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack
> is a very good book on blackjack. Though, I
> prefer reading not so advanced books before
> I read his, kind of complicated book.
The point is, you are already asking questions here that are fully and completely answered in BJA. So, if you already know enough to ask the questions, you shoulk be willing to read the books that give you the answers, no?
You also say that you've been playing BJ for four years, but then that you are a minor and not permitted to play yet. Which is it?
Don
> You also say that you've been playing BJ for
> four years, but then that you are a minor
> and not permitted to play yet. Which is it?
Both. I practice at home, to be fully prepared when I reach legitimate age. I study the game every day and constantly try to update on information and skills. Many people ask me how I can be devoted to something that I can't practice in real life. My answer to this, is that I like studying gambling as much as playing. Debating on international forums and hearing different points of views is a great way for me to learn. Even though I like to read books on blackjack, they're not perfect, since they only give one side of any problem, while a forum contributes with several perspectives on each problem and tecnique. Blackjack rarely has, according to my opinion, only one correct way to follow. It's a flexible game with many opportunities.
Best regards, Robert V. Lux
> Well, since I am a minor, I don't rush. I
> know that Mr. Schlesinger's Blackjack Attack
> is a very good book on blackjack. Though, I
> prefer reading not so advanced books before
> I read his, kind of complicated book.
Don's book is not as complicated as you might think. While he guides the reader through the math used to arrive at the concepts he is explaining, he always finishes with a summary in plain language that even the math-impaired (such as myself) can easily understand.
For example, Don shows how he arrived at the 18 most important strategy deviations (I-18) by calculating the advantage gained, frequency of occurance, etc. However, it is not necessary to understand exactly how they were derived in order to realize that most of the gain from strategy deviations can be realized with just these 18 indices.
Read the book. It will answer many (if not most) of the questions you are posing on these pages.
BTW, why aren't you out chasing girls like normal kids your age?
:-)
> Don's book is not as complicated as you
> might think. While he guides the reader
> through the math used to arrive at the
> concepts he is explaining, he always
> finishes with a summary in plain language
> that even the math-impaired (such as myself)
> can easily understand.
I believe you, but to fully understand the book, which by the way contains lots of complicated maths formulas, I rather wait some months and meanwhile develop my maths skills. As a concequence of this, I will understand more. Many of the formulas are nothing for us mortals, i.e. on page 113. Despite I might get the point, I want to understand all information to 100%.
> Read the book. It will answer many (if not
> most) of the questions you are posing on
> these pages.
I will when I am ready for it...
> BTW, why aren't you out chasing girls like
> normal kids your age?
Who said blackjack excludes girls
Best regards, Robert V. Lux
You dont have to understand higher level mathematics to benefit from BJA at all.
Chapter 10 is self explanatory and should provide you with answers to your penetration question.
The chapter titled Risk Of Ruin is especially valuable.
Like many other players I was grossly Over-betting my bankroll due to lack of general understanding but the charts are simple to read and will assist you.READ IT NOW!
> I believe you, but to fully understand the
> book, which by the way contains lots of
> complicated maths formulas, I rather wait
> some months and meanwhile develop my maths
> skills. As a concequence of this, I will
> understand more. Many of the formulas are
> nothing for us mortals, i.e. on page 113.
> Despite I might get the point, I want to
> understand all information to 100%.
> I will when I am ready for it...
There is no requirement that you must understand everything in the book the first time you read it. Actually, that would be damn near impossible. The binding on my first edition disintegrated from frequent reference, and my copy of the new edition (which is sitting a few feet from me in my hotel) is already seriously dog-eared.
This is not a book that you simply read once. It is a reference work that you will find yourself frequently referring to, once you become familiar with it.
And, once you become even passingly familiar with it, you will know the answers to many of the questions that you are asking on this page.
We are fortunate that Don spends a great deal of his valuable time answering questions on these pages. He gets understandably annoyed when he has to keep repeating things that are thoroughly covered in his book. And I don't blame him.
It's not nice to annoy Don. Read the book.
:-)
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