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  1. #14
    Clarke Cant
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    Clarke Cant: Re: Yeah, right

    Reel and real was a pun for the virtual reel distinction as well. Missed again Don!

  2. #15
    Clarke Cant
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    Clarke Cant: Re: COMPUTERS (if you must!) Fun for wireheads!

    Some notes on Zilog's new eZ-80. Clocking is only rated on the external bus ~50Mhz but the internal clocking is 18 times that for the cpu unit. The clock speed comparable to Intel's is about 2.2 gighz. The chip pipelines webpages as if they were normal instructions and will convert Java and html to C codes with internal instructions.

    The lowest rf emissions from static ram is neck and neck between Hitachi and Micron. Both of their websites would indicate an rf emission of less than .04 miliwatt, at 200 Mhz to 2 ghz. Again convert to Intel's use of clocking speeds internallly and externally to get a better idea of rf spectrum output (what frequencies bleed off from inside to the external pins).

    For power requirements, the new Zilog series power consumption figures are very low and likely can be reduced by about 60% of the rated requirements. This is because these chips are rated to require 2.2 volts while being able to tolerate 5 volt power supplies,with internal regulation. This indicates that their power inputs are high impediance and if the chip rests more often, the Casey program is simple compared to what the chips can do, the power needs go down too.

    Taking the Zilog server suite (that is what they call it) and adding a ROM duped from a Casey, you could have a system powered by a 2.5 to 3 volt power system, taking about 5 miliwatts or less, and emitting less rf than an average liquid crystal watch display, and putting that mostly between 200 Mhz and 2.5 Gighz.


  3. #16
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: You're full of it

    > Reel and real was a pun for the virtual
    > reel distinction as well. Missed again Don!

    You're so full of it, it's coming out of your ears.

    In case you haven't noticed, the people over here are not the same group as on bj21 Free pages. And, if you think your bulls**t is going to fly here, you're sadly mistaken. Why not learn how to spell, instead? You make it sound as if making intelligent posts AND spelling correctly are mutually exclusive. Some people can actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

    In the meantime, I was telling people that they can win more at shoe games without a computer 25 years ago, so don't get on your high horse as to what point I did or didn't miss.

    And, if you think you're going to get into a pissing contest with me over here, watch how quickly your posts disappear.

    Reminder again: this isn't bj21

    Don


  4. #17
    Tom George
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    Tom George: Clarke is only providing insight.

    Don,I usually never post here anymore but have a need to speak my opinion.

    Clarke has taken the time to provide some very detailed academic and interesting insight of new technology for us electronic buffs, It is GREATLY appreciated. I would understand if you were commenting about the issue (electronics) and making a civil opinion, but coming down with a huff about typo's is irellavant.

    Thanks for an interesting concept Clarke, appreciate it.

    Tom George

  5. #18
    Clarke Cant
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    Clarke Cant: Re: Clarke is only providing insight.

    Thankyou. This is the side of Don that we all regret. You will notice that my figures for power consumption are based upon the clock cycles needed on average to do the required computing tasks and otherwise having the processor in a sleep mode, where it is awakened by new input. This is only possible on the Zilog chips in the way they handle what used to be called interupts and in the Intel scheme is now called exception processing.

    Zilog's methods allow this, while Intel's methods require rebooting etc. That cuts power requirements tremendously. This is another reason why such an old processor design is being scalled up for dense packing of servers in newer server applications.

    Note too from the Zilog website: these are very reasonably priced in quantity.

  6. #19
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Re: Clarke is only providing insight.

    > Clarke has taken the time to provide some
    > very detailed academic and interesting
    > insight of new technology for us electronic
    > buffs, It is GREATLY appreciated. I would
    > understand if you were commenting about the
    > issue (electronics) and making a civil
    > opinion, but coming down with a huff about
    > typo's is irellavant.

    My comment had nothing to with the electronics information. It had to do with Clarke's smart-ass attitude telling me I was missing a point that I have known for 25 years. And, it had to do with his back-pedaling and trying to defend the fact that he spells like a third-grader by insulting everyone's intelligence, claiming that he misspelled the words on purpose, which is a crock.

    I simply pointed out that this kind of bulls**t will be tolerated on bj21, but isn't going to fly here.

    Don


  7. #20
    The Mayor
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    The Mayor: A statistical study...

    Google found 1,260,000 occurences of "Pont"

    Google found 47,900,000 occurences of "Point"

    I suppose, statistically speaking, you are better off with "Point"... if I had to bet on one of them, however, I would take the long shot here.

    --Mayor

  8. #21
    CRBuz
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    CRBuz: Don, please, have a cocktail

    Don, Don't get me wrong, I am a huge admirer of yours. As an intermediate BJ player trying to learn, you body of work has been invaluable to me. BJA is one of my favorite books ever, of any genre, and I have read everything you have posted here and on BJ21 since I found them a few months ago. But, to sweat things like mis-spellings in otherwise informative and helpful posts, while sometimes helpful and educational to a terribly under-educated world, is really going off on an insignificant and unnecessary tangent. Maybe it was a pun and, maybe it wasn't. WHO CARES, let it slide. Relax, and revel in your spelling superiority. Unfortunately, it took me a while to learn this also...people in this day and age can't spell, and those of us who can are not going to educate them in forums such as this. Please, spend your considerable talents and brainpower on things that are much more productive for you and those of us who crave your knowledge. Just my 2 cents, thanks.

  9. #22
    ET Fan
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    ET Fan: Afraid I miss your pont (nt)

    er, point

  10. #23
    Don Schlesinger
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    Don Schlesinger: Enjoyed your post

    > Don, Don't get me wrong, I am a huge
    > admirer of yours. As an intermediate BJ
    > player trying to learn, you body of work has
    > been invaluable to me. BJA is one of my
    > favorite books ever, of any genre, and I
    > have read everything you have posted here
    > and on BJ21 since I found them a few months
    > ago. But, to sweat things like mis-spellings
    > in otherwise informative and helpful posts,
    > while sometimes helpful and educational to a
    > terribly under-educated world, is really
    > going off on an insignificant and
    > unnecessary tangent. Maybe it was a pun and,
    > maybe it wasn't. WHO CARES, let it slide.
    > Relax, and revel in your spelling
    > superiority. Unfortunately, it took me a
    > while to learn this also...people in this
    > day and age can't spell, and those of us who
    > can are not going to educate them in forums
    > such as this. Please, spend your
    > considerable talents and brainpower on
    > things that are much more productive for you
    > and those of us who crave your knowledge.
    > Just my 2 cents, thanks.

    Thank you. I enjoyed your comments and agree with most of what you say. I don't point out spelling mistakes any more. If I did, I'd be posting 100 times a day. I made the exception in Clarke's case because he was being dishonest in trying to defend the indefensible. The whole world knows he can't spell. It was disingenuous of him to try to weasel out of what was his obvious deficiency. I didn't admire the attempt at deception, and said so.

    I just want Clarke to realize that this is rge21, not bj21, and that some of the actions he takes over there aren't going to cut it over here.

    Don

  11. #24
    spock
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    spock: Re: Clarke is only providing insight.

    Spelling mistakes are irrelvant captain. Clarke, much like Einstein, may be wearing sneakers with mismatched socks. It is what he is writing on the board that can be important. Don admits spelling mistakes in BJA, but this has little effect on getting the point across.

  12. #25
    quark
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    quark: Re: Enjoyed your post

    > Thank you. I enjoyed your comments and
    > agree with most of what you say. I don't
    > point out spelling mistakes any more. If I
    > did, I'd be posting 100 times a day.

    I agree that spelling mistakes or typos are irrelevant unless the meaning is lost in the translation. With Clarke, that IS sometimes the case. And I too noticed his "backpedaling" even before you brought it up. He seems ok, though.

    > I just want Clarke to realize that this is
    > rge21, not bj21, and that some of the
    > actions he takes over there aren't going to
    > cut it over here.

    I too, have enjoyed your posts at bj21 for the last 6 months or so. Kinda funny, I first stumbled on a series of posts between you and Frank Stanton. I thought you were being awfully rude to a novice in treating his thoughts with no regard for anything but your way of thinking. I knew you were a respected author and blackjack professional, so I gave you some slack.

    THEN... I kept reading Stanton's ravings and the more I learned, the more that I, too, was becoming irritated at his rantings!! It would have been much better if he could have provided some proof for his ideas other than, "It doesn't work for me" approach. I realized it is NOT just a matter of opinion. Somehow, I'm not surprised that he hasn't won at BJ for the last 30 years.

    I'm a much better player than I was 6 months ago, and you are partially the reason. Thanks, Don. Just cool it with the idiots.

    quark...

    P.S. I checked my spelling on this post. (something I usually do not do.)

  13. #26
    CAPTXII
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    CAPTXII: Re: DS You missed the point

    >

    Spelling is more important than any thing else=
    3 wasted degrees. Sorry but that is a fact.

    You did. By the time the manual would be
    > written to your standards any computer would
    > be obsolete. You would be the one insisting
    > it not be sold until then. And I doubt you
    > have never known which end of a soldering
    > iron is the one you pickup. It does not pay
    > to try to use a computer in a casino; the
    > laws involved might be beaten, but the fact
    > is they are slower to use than any mental
    > count. They are slower such that there is
    > more money, and bankroll safety, using your
    > head. Case closed. If I had waited to post
    > to your standards---even today Micron has
    > been beaten in the low RF emissions by a new
    > memory chip being put out by Hitachi---it
    > would never have been current. I don't write
    > for your approval and never will.

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