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curious: Question on Pontoon
I found a rare Pontoon game with very good rules but I am not sure whether it is playable.
6D
S17
ES10 & ESA
Natural pays 2 to 1
5 cards pays 3 to 2
777 pays 3 to 1
DOA
DAS
RSA
Double or hitting RSA allowed
Surrender on split/resplit hands allowed
Triple/redouble original bets on 4 cards
Hitting after double allowed.
Dealer takes all stand-off/pushes.
Can I beat this game with basic strategy ? Or is there any counting system that can be used to beat this game?
Any input is appreciated.
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Daily Dubble: Re: Question on Pontoon
> I found a rare Pontoon game with very good rules but I
> am not sure whether it is playable.
I don't know anything about the game, but the Wizard of odds has a BS and indicates the house edge ranges from close to zero up to as high as .49%. Edge tilts toward player with more decks, too...
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pontoonplayer: Re: Question on Pontoon
some questions more to tell the edge:
do 5 cards always pay for the player? or does a dealer?s 5 card trick beat the player?s 5 card trick?
does a 5 card pay at once even if dealer has A or 10? or can dealer beat your 5 card with a natural?
this is a big difference in EV.
can you double 4 cards if you have 11 or less, i.e. a secure non-bust hand? or do you just get a free card and dealer pays your tripled bet 3/2 ?
player?s edge can be between -0.5% and more than +1%, need the details.
> I found a rare Pontoon game with very good rules but I
> am not sure whether it is playable.
> 6D
> S17
> ES10 & ESA
> Natural pays 2 to 1
> 5 cards pays 3 to 2
> 777 pays 3 to 1
> DOA
> DAS
> RSA
> Double or hitting RSA allowed
> Surrender on split/resplit hands allowed
> Triple/redouble original bets on 4 cards
> Hitting after double allowed.
> Dealer takes all stand-off/pushes.
> Can I beat this game with basic strategy ? Or is there
> any counting system that can be used to beat this
> game?
> Any input is appreciated.
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curious: Re: Question on Pontoon
When both having 5 cards, the higher side (<21) wins the game.
5 cards trick beats Natural.
Redouble (triple) allowed at 4 cards ( any points ),if double down initially at 2 cards.
I read somewhere that house edge for taking all pushes is about -8.86%, Can all the favorable rules turn the edge towards the player?
Thank you for the response.
Cheers!
> some questions more to tell the edge:
> do 5 cards always pay for the player? or does a
> dealer?s 5 card trick beat the player?s 5 card trick?
> does a 5 card pay at once even if dealer has A or 10?
> or can dealer beat your 5 card with a natural?
> this is a big difference in EV.
> can you double 4 cards if you have 11 or less, i.e. a
> secure non-bust hand? or do you just get a free card
> and dealer pays your tripled bet 3/2 ?
> player?s edge can be between -0.5% and more than +1%,
> need the details.
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curious: Correction
> 5 cards trick beats Natural.
>
CORRECTION : 5 cards trick loses to Natural
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pontoony: Re: Correction
> CORRECTION : 5 cards trick loses to Natural
i will run a sim, but need some time. have to rewrite my program code. i will give you an e-mail address.
i tell you at once: seems to be a good game, especially because you can redouble any 4 card hand. all places i know give you just a free card if you have doubled twice and have still 11 or less.
i can tell you more when i am ready with my program.
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curious: Re: Correction
> i will run a sim, but need some time. have to rewrite
> my program code. i will give you an e-mail address.
> i tell you at once: seems to be a good game,
> especially because you can redouble any 4 card hand.
> all places i know give you just a free card if you
> have doubled twice and have still 11 or less.
> i can tell you more when i am ready with my program.
Thank you ! I appreciate your effort.
Am looking forward to it.
Cheers!!
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curious: Re: Question on Pontoon
Actually I expected more responses than this... :-(
considering the number of experts here...
I wonder if this is due to Industrial protection...,or selfishness ??
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Don Schlesinger: Re: Question on Pontoon
> Actually I expected more responses than this... :-(
> considering the number of experts here...
> I wonder if this is due to Industrial protection...,or
> selfishness ??
I'll ask Katarina to stop by and have a look. Then, we'll see what you have to say about the resident experts! ;-)
Don
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curious: Re: Question on Pontoon
> I'll ask Katarina to stop by and have a look. Then,
> we'll see what you have to say about the resident
> experts! ;-)
> Don
Thanks Don ! :-)
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curious: Re: Question on Pontoon
> Both. The game is beatable and has been beaten for
> mnay years. Those who know how to beat the game has no
> reason to disclose.
My apology for misunderstanding the policy of some experts here...
Some experts only come to this site to talk about their barring experience,their annual winnings and to compete the number of countries they have played!
I may get better responses if I offer to contribute some percentage of my winnings, or offer to buy the counting system and playing strategy.
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