ODAAT: London Info Please

[ODAAT]

I am headed to London for a few days in December. I have already faxed my membership applications to the major casinos there and have received acceptance at four casinos. I understand the primary game is 4D(3/4),D9,DAS,RSA,ENHC(Dealer takes all on a natural). I wanted to get some feedback from AP's on this site. All recommendations and general intelligence is welcome. Feel free to email me.

Thanks in advance,

ODAAT

[Don Schlesinger]

> I am headed to London for a few days in
> December. I have already faxed my membership
> applications to the major casinos there and
> have received acceptance at four casinos. I
> understand the primary game is
> 4D(3/4),D9,DAS,RSA,ENHC(Dealer takes all on
> a natural). I wanted to get some feedback
> from AP's on this site. All recommendations
> and general intelligence is welcome. Feel
> free to email me.

You didn't mention that insurance may be taken only when you have a natural, and that is a costly penalty. Also, I believe certain pair-splitting (fours, for example) is also prohibited, but that's not a big deal.

Don

[Geoff Hall]

> You didn't mention that insurance may be
> taken only when you have a natural, and that
> is a costly penalty. Also, I believe certain
> pair-splitting (fours, for example) is also
> prohibited, but that's not a big deal.

> Don

4's, 5's & 10's are not allowed to be split in England.

I think that the majority of casinos now have 6 decks although I am not certain about the situation with some of the casinos in London. My GUESS would be mainly 6 decks.

The only way that I managed to gain from the limitations in taking Insurance was to Insure the other players' bets, as most take 'even money'. However, I certainly wouldn't recommend it as a newcomer and I only did it in casinos where I knew the management well.

It was an interesting twist in becoming a 'partial banker' during the evening.

Best regards

Geoff

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[gambler]

> I think that the majority of casinos now
> have 6 decks although I am not certain about
> the situation with some of the casinos in
> London. My GUESS would be mainly 6 decks.

Interesting enough, how small the AP community is.It seems to me, that in England only one or two APs are playing, since this board should be one of the best frequented.

[Barker]

> Interesting enough, how small the AP
> community is.It seems to me, that in England
> only one or two APs are playing, since this
> board should be one of the best frequented.

You are correct, not only are there few APs but to see correct basic players is very very rare! BB

[daring]

You are likely to get barred just playing BS, it happened to me on a lucky streak

[Chancer]

Stick to LCI and Stanley casinos, mostly 4 deck and up to 75% pen, but you have to spread 30+. They are very tolerent heatwise, unless you go from 1 to 30+, anyone that blatant gets all they deserve in my book. Would recommend backcounting, heads up can be difficult unless you go early. Opening times 2pm - 6am (except on Sat - 4am). Palm Beach, 50 St James, Cromwell Mint, Sportsman, Rendezvous and if you are desperate or scruffy, Napoleons. There are other more upscale casinos, but you have to shell out ?1k for the privelege. Keep away from Gala at all costs, altho the one on Picadilly has craps, if thats your bag, along with Grosvenors Victoria on Edgeware Road.

Me in London? I'd rather go to the pub then a curry, and save my money for better conditions in other countries.

BTW, does anyone know how long a Belgium ban lasts for? Its been 2 years since it happened.

[ODAAT]

Thanks for the info.

Why do you think a 1-30 spread is necessary? BJRM says the SCORE maxes out at $68.80 with a 1-10 when wonging. A 1-30 play all SCORE is $54.30; 1-20=$48.84;1-16=$45.10 and 1-12=$39.52. These numers don't take ENHC(Dealer all) or not splitting 4,5, or 10s into account since I don't have the sim software to figure this out.

Your feedback is appreciated.

[Barker]

> Thanks for the info.

> Why do you think a 1-30 spread is necessary?
> BJRM says the SCORE maxes out at $68.80 with
> a 1-10 when wonging. A 1-30 play all SCORE
> is $54.30; 1-20=$48.84;1-16=$45.10 and
> 1-12=$39.52. These numers don't take
> ENHC(Dealer all) or not splitting 4,5, or
> 10s into account since I don't have the sim
> software to figure this out.

> Your feedback is appreciated.

Hi, you have answered your own question, ENHC and dealer takes all and no insurance does make a great difference when using BJRM. Jon Auston did in fact once have an option he called hi-loEuro which showed an off the top house edge of .59% whichI believe is about right. Unfortunately I have inquired as to aquiring the option but I am sure JA is a busy man and as yet, has not replied.Regards BB.

[Newjay]

Good info. Thanks. Is it hard to Wong-in-out? also can you back bet on other players like in Australia?

> Stick to LCI and Stanley casinos, mostly 4
> deck and up to 75% pen, but you have to
> spread 30+. They are very tolerent heatwise,
> unless you go from 1 to 30+, anyone that
> blatant gets all they deserve in my book.
> Would recommend backcounting, heads up can
> be difficult unless you go early. Opening
> times 2pm - 6am (except on Sat - 4am). Palm
> Beach, 50 St James, Cromwell Mint,
> Sportsman, Rendezvous and if you are
> desperate or scruffy, Napoleons. There are
> other more upscale casinos, but you have to
> shell out ?1k for the privelege. Keep away
> from Gala at all costs, altho the one on
> Picadilly has craps, if thats your bag,
> along with Grosvenors Victoria on Edgeware
> Road.

> Me in London? I'd rather go to the pub then
> a curry, and save my money for better
> conditions in other countries.

> BTW, does anyone know how long a Belgium ban
> lasts for? Its been 2 years since it
> happened.

[Chancer]

Wong-in-out?

Go early for heads up, 2pm - 6pm. Go late for Wonging, 10pm - 6am.

Backbetting?

Up to three players can play a single box, however the riders are not obliged to follow the main player, ie BJ insurance, doubling & splitting.

[Newjay]

Thanks Chancer.

I faxed my application to 2 casinos in London one
LCI and one Stanley as you suggested earlier. Is that enough?

Golden Nugget & Cromwell-are those OK? what table mins? pen? 4D or 6D? Thanks for info

> Wong-in-out?

> Go early for heads up, 2pm - 6pm. Go late
> for Wonging, 10pm - 6am.

> Backbetting?

> Up to three players can play a single box,
> however the riders are not obliged to follow
> the main player, ie BJ insurance, doubling
> & splitting.

[Chancer]

Golden Nugget - gets very crowded by crazy gamblers from Chinatown. 6D only, usually good pen (up to 85%). The only casino in the UK that has H17.
Min ?5 up to ?25, max up to ?1k, I think. No dress code, friendly people. If you cash out over ?1k, they ask for your name which can be a little disconcerting. Heads up possible at times on the higher limit table. Wonging also possible, they have about six tables. Lots of riders and players, easy to blend into the chaos.

Cromwell Mint - A more classy environment, smart casual dress code. 6D downstairs with about 3/4 tables. One table of 4D upstairs after 9pm. Pen was pretty good last time I went. ?5 min, over ?1k max. Free food most of the time.

They were never my favourite casinos, but not bad to kick off with. You can always join the others when you arrive, then play in these two while waiting for the 24 hours to elapse.

I hope this kind of talk does not compromise your identity, what with casino spies and all........ but I guess it won't matter too much if you are in and out like fiddlers elbow.

I don't really play in this counry anymore, got burned to often.

Hope this helps, and GOOD LUCK.