Slot M. Student: better games for a traveler with little money?

[Slot M. Student]

(Posting note at end)

I wonder where are the better games for a traveler with little money?

Low amounts of transportation and shelter expenditures are important because transportation and shelter expenditures would be paid with what otherwise would be greater bankroll.

In order to keep risk of loss down, good rules might be more important than good penetration might be.

Low minimum bets and even high ratios of maximum bets to minimum bets are more important than are high maximum bets.

Of course risks of loss at the games are important. And notable risks of being cheated at the games are important.

Return for the work is of great interest. The work, when I am figuring it, includes consideration of:

time spent at the games.

time spent waiting for the games.

effort involved in using (playing) the games.

assumption of risks involved including:

assaults, kidnapping, etc. by authorities

assaults, kidnapping, etc. by others

loss of valuables through: confiscation,

fining, penalizing, etc.

loss of valuables through: theft, robbery,

burglary, etc.

With all this in mind, where are the better games for a traveler with little money? What are those games and places like?

Hopefully,

Slot

Have been posting on bj21 for something like five years. Other web sites for less time.

[Geoff Hall]

> (Posting note at end)

> I wonder where are the better games for a
> traveler with little money?

> Low amounts of transportation and shelter
> expenditures are important because
> transportation and shelter expenditures
> would be paid with what otherwise would be
> greater bankroll.

Best games,if you can get there - RUSSIA

Best regards

Geoff

> In order to keep risk of loss down, good
> rules might be more important than good
> penetration might be.

> Low minimum bets and even high ratios of
> maximum bets to minimum bets are more
> important than are high maximum bets.

> Of course risks of loss at the games are
> important. And notable risks of being
> cheated at the games are important.

> Return for the work is of great interest.
> The work, when I am figuring it, includes
> consideration of:

> time spent at the games.

> time spent waiting for the games.

> effort involved in using (playing) the
> games.

> assumption of risks involved including:

> assaults, kidnapping, etc. by authorities

> assaults, kidnapping, etc. by others

> loss of valuables through: confiscation,

> fining, penalizing, etc.

> loss of valuables through: theft, robbery,

> burglary, etc.

> With all this in mind, where are the better
> games for a traveler with little money? What
> are those games and places like?

> Hopefully,

> Slot

> Have been posting on bj21 for something like
> five years. Other web sites for less time.

http://www.blackjackswitch.com

[Ed Tice]

Are you sure? I work with a few guys from Russia and they tell me that Russia has become overrun with Cheating Shuffling Machines.

> Best games,if you can get there - RUSSIA

> Best regards

> Geoff

[Geoff Hall]

> Are you sure? I work with a few guys from
> Russia and they tell me that Russia has
> become overrun with Cheating Shuffling
> Machines.

Shuffling machines are more evident now although there are plenty of casinos that still use dealer shuffling. Pretty much every game, in Moscow, has a player edge off the top, due to the ESA rule (even with shuffling machines).

As there are an abundance of casinos in and around Moscow (72) there should be some choice as to where to find the best games.

Besides, 11 of the casinos over there now have the best game in the world installed :-)

Best regards

Geoff

http://www.blackjackswitch.com

[Parker]

You don't say where you will be traveling from. This is, of course, significant.

Also, I must confess that, with the exception of a few Canadian casinos, I have no experience playing outside the USA.

All that being said, there is still no place in the world like Las Vegas.

Where else will you find over 100 casinos offering live blackjack in one area?

There are an abundance of low minimum tables. Food and shelter are incredibly cheap (or free, depending on your level of play).

Assaults, kidnappings, theft, robberies, etc., are non-issues as long as you excercise a little common sense. Casino cheating isn't a significant factor, either.

The games may not be as good as they once were, but with over 100 choices, good games can be found if you look for them. There is truly a casino for everyone.

Viva Las Vegas! :-)

[Vishi]

Yes, the better place in the world for gambling is Vegas. But.... in lot of countries the casinos and the personal have no experience and you can make the money, they even will comp you.
May be they will say "you are the most lucky player in our casino"
Vishi

> You don't say where you will be traveling
> from. This is, of course, significant.

> Also, I must confess that, with the
> exception of a few Canadian casinos, I have
> no experience playing outside the USA.

> All that being said, there is still no place
> in the world like Las Vegas.

> Where else will you find over 100 casinos
> offering live blackjack in one area?

> There are an abundance of low minimum
> tables. Food and shelter are incredibly
> cheap (or free, depending on your level of
> play).

> Assaults, kidnappings, theft, robberies,
> etc., are non-issues as long as you
> excercise a little common sense. Casino
> cheating isn't a significant factor, either.

> The games may not be as good as they once
> were, but with over 100 choices, good games
> can be found if you look for them. There is
> truly a casino for everyone.

> Viva Las Vegas! :-)

[Slot M. Student]

Thanks Geoff and Ed.

I have thought that excellent, if not best games, were in Russia. However I have understood that the monetary and time costs, especially in Moscow, of visiting were high. Accordingly it seemed a good place only for those who are well bankrolled and who can handle substantial expense and aggrivation. And there have been indications that both casino and government authorities were rather likely to reduce or confiscate all of a visitor's money. And there have been reports that offerings at some casinos were deteriorating.

By "if you can get there," Geoff, did you mean that one who has little resources would not likely do well? If not what did you mean?

What is "the best game in the world?" What makes it so?

Slot M. Student

> Shuffling machines are more evident now
> although there are plenty of casinos that
> still use dealer shuffling. Pretty much
> every game, in Moscow, has a player edge off
> the top, due to the ESA rule (even with
> shuffling machines).

> As there are an abundance of casinos in and
> around Moscow (72) there should be some
> choice as to where to find the best games.

> Besides, 11 of the casinos over there now
> have the best game in the world installed
> :-)

> Best regards

> Geoff

[Slot M. Student]

Thanks Parker and Vishi.

I didn't say where I would be traveling from, even though that is significant, because I am traveling all the time and visit different parts of the world at different times.

I have understood that the monetary costs of visiting Las Vegas were medium. But there have been indications that both casino and government authorities were rather likely to assault a visitor. And there have been reports that offerings at some casinos were greatly deteriorated.

And it seems that restaurant meals and temporary shelter prices are low compared to prices in other large US cities. But food and shelter prices are high compared to prices in other large world-cities.

It seems that Vishi reported on good games a month or so ago. Those games might have limits a low-financed player would do well with. But my investigating the maintenance costs for a low-financed player revealed disappointment. It seems that food and shelter costs would be like or higher than those in large European cities.

So although there is still no place in the world like Las Vegas I wonder whether there are not other places which are good for relatively low-financed players.

Slot M. Student

> Yes, the better place in the world for
> gambling is Vegas. But.... in lot of
> countries the casinos and the personal have
> no experience and you can make the money,
> they even will comp you.
> May be they will say "you are the most
> lucky player in our casino"
> Vishi

[Geoff Hall]

> By "if you can get there," Geoff,
> did you mean that one who has little
> resources would not likely do well? If not
> what did you mean?

> What is "the best game in the
> world?" What makes it so?

> Slot M. Student

Hi Slot

The reference about whether you could get there was based purely on your present location, as Parker pointed out in another post (which I didn't know). If you live in New York then there are easier places to travel to than Moscow. So my comment was based on location rather than financial circumstances.

You are right about the living costs being high in Moscow (like most capital cities) and a decent hotel will set you back about $75 per night. Also, you are only allowed to take $3,000 out of the country so it may get a little nervewracking at customs if you are carrying more.

The 'Best game in the World' comment was a tongue-in-cheek comment as there are at least 11 casinos that now have 'Blackjack Switch' installed. (I invented the game :-) ).

Best regards

Geoff

http://www.blackjackswitch.com

[methodman]

> places that offer 2 to 1 on bj's
> dbl on 6 cards,
> early surrender
> dbl after dbl,

these kinds of actions are hard to find IN Vegas.

bUT AGREE Vegas is like non other.

[Parker]

> these kinds of actions are hard to find IN
> Vegas.

> bUT AGREE Vegas is like non other.

There will always be the isolated promotion here and there.

Certain areas do present unique opportunities. They also present unique challenges, such as getting out of the country with body and bankroll intact.

However, no place has the sheer number of opportunities as Las Vegas.

In addition, by taking advantage of specials and staying in the smaller properties, it is possible to eat and sleep in Las Vegas for next to nothing.

If you bet at green chip levels or above, make that literally nothing.

[methodman]

> these are not specials in these countries Parker,but regular routine great bj.
And many play off the cuff with a nice positive,and you can not find that anywhere in Vegas.

[Arbitrager]

Give me one good reason why I should tell you?