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    Min BR to Turn Pro?

    What min bankroll do you think you shoud have to turn full time traveling Pro?
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    Depends on your game. Counting I'd want 50k minimum but I'd rather have 100k. Other games with higher edges and lower table maxes could perhaps go lower, but beware of variance if this would be your full time gig. You'll want to be playing fractional Kelly and consider drawdown scenarios.

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    Agree with DA. If you are counting I think you need at least a 100k. The key word is "travelling." Those expenses can eat you up.

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    Also your monthly nut is a huge factor. If you can live extremely cheap it's easier to do on a smaller bankroll. If your monthly cash burn rate is high, you'll need a high winrate to sustain yourself, which means higher stakes. That also means higher variance, and your monthly nut is a big drain on your bankroll that will combine to increase the effect of downswings. I think focusing on minimal expenses is at least as important, if not more, than having a certain size bankroll.

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    So i would have to cut back on the drugs and hookers

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    Or the housing and food. Your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyne View Post
    Or the housing and food. Your choice.
    HHmmmmmm thats a hard one

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    Or the housing and food. Your choice.
    If I have to make choices, I think I will opt for food and hookers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    If I have to make choices, I think I will opt for food and hookers.
    Excellent choice

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    30k minimum, if you have no real expenses and live at home, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebe View Post
    So i would have to cut back on the drugs and hookers
    Another reason to have a bigger bankroll and use quality hosts. Work the comp system! (joking)

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    From my own experience, I am going to have to say $4300.

    Seriously, I think the number of 100K that D.A. and RWM put out there is the amount needed to really have a change to succeed. So yes, you can start with less than this amount, but you need to work up to this amount as quickly and safely you can. So in the spirit of the question, I think the minimum needed to have a reasonable chance of success is 40-50K, depending on circumstances. I guess, if you are living at home or have a 'sugarmommy/daddy' and have zero expenses, you could make a reasonable serios go of it at 25K.
    Last edited by KJ; 05-09-2013 at 05:11 PM.

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    There is a big difference between a traveling pro, and someone living in Vegas. Traveling is expensive. Air fares, rental cars, hotels etc will eat you up. I think someone moving to Vegas and trying to keep expenses really low and grind it could maybe start with 20. But they would have a much better chance if they move beyond counting right away.

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