Anyone else double down on 12?

[22 Dreams]

For the shoe game, 16 vs 10 is a much closer play than that. Always standing, playing all and flat betting, it costs 60 cents per $100 bet.

I think you misread (like I did the first time) what Tthree typed. He said 2.65 cents per $100 bet, not $2.65. I think he gets the 2.65 cents per $100 from BJA3. The other numbers you posted for A7 v (9,10, and A) are higher, too. So I'm not sure what to make of this.

I'd love to know what the penalty is for play all single deck always standing on 16.

Nice to see you posting here. I enjoyed the book.

[mofungoo]

Standing on 16 vT is a very cheap[ cover play. You only do it on min bet out when you are wrong. For play all it costs 2.65 cents per $100 bet flat betting in the long run. Of course we aren't flat betting so it is much cheaper cover play than that. I am not sure how that makes it the most important index play behind insurance. Your A7v(9,T or A) cover play costs 0.94 cent/$100, 1.06 cents/$100 and 2.20 cents/$100 bet. A total of 3.2 cents/$100 in bets when flat betting. The trouble with these soft stands on A7 is they are more and more costly when you ramp your bets. These figures are for flat betting. While your ramp makes the 16vT far less costly it makes your soft stands on A7 even more costly. Also you want a cover play that shows itself often. You are picking relatively rare hand match ups that are more costly per occurrence. The pit have a list of frequent hand matchups to score your threat level. You can bet those soft stands aren't on it. They aren't going to wait forever to rate your threat level. These deviations have little to no cover value only cost.

If you are interested in cover plays I suggest you reevaluate considering the cost of each play weighted for frequency and then consider how your ramp interacts with this amount. Does it lessen it as with 16vT or increase it as in the soft doubles. The other issue is does the play make their score card for skill level. 16vT is near the top because it is so frequently used with an index of 0.

Right you are on the 16 vs 10 plays. Here's how departures from basic strategy might trigger a skills check:

http://www.casinoenterprisemanagemen...ction-shortcut

[Renzey]

I'd love to know what the penalty is for play all single deck always standing on 16. Nice to see you posting here. I enjoyed the book.

Against a 10, flat betting and playing all, standing gives up an extra 3.6% of the bet in single deck H17.
against an Ace = 7.0%
against a 9 = 6.0%
against an 8 = 10.0%
against a 7 = 11.0%

[22 Dreams]

Thanks.