Shuffle Tracking Question for Don

[moo321]

It isn't. If you look at the passage again it says "the high cards often just aren't there". That doesn't mean they are not there more often than not.

I think Snyder's comment was addressing trackers who are trying to bet big off the top into positive slugs with tracking information only. Your approach is more conservative and IMO more intelligent.

It's basically just as risky to bet hard off the top because you think the first deck out of the shoe is heavy by +10 as it is to bet heavy in the last half deck before the cut card because there should be 10 excess lows in the bottom deck. Either way, even experienced trackers will tell you to underbet. It's just too easy to make mistakes.


It's definitely not as profitable to chop lows out of play because of dilution. If the game is .6% house advantage off the top, chopping 10 lows to the back barely overcomes the house advantage. Whereas cutting 10 highs into play gives you a 4-5% advantage for that deck.


Plus, it makes you look like an idiot because you're betting big off the top. Whereas a chop player is going to be going up and down with the count.

[peterlee]

If you're confident in your tracking skills, bet big on the high card zone.
Otherwise, cut the big cards to half shoe below, then count as normal.

[Gramazeka]

Dalmatian,
Judging by the level of the question in the first post, you are a real amateur. Better walk along well-trodden roads, with a simple count, or there will be an accident...

I will continue the discussion with you, after asking questions, for example, how the NRS formula works for brocken slugs... Come back in half a year...

p.s. Snyder is right!

[dalmatian]

Dalmatian,
Judging by the level of the question in the first post, you are a real amateur. Better walk along well-trodden roads, with a simple count, or there will be an accident...

I will continue the discussion with you, after asking questions, for example, how the NRS formula works for brocken slugs... Come back in half a year...

p.s. Snyder is right!

I still can't believe the success of your team in the shitholes they play. This gives me hope. But yes, I just started reading the cookbook

[dalmatian]

But @Gramazeka

I will hold you to your promise. I will contact you when I finish Snyder's cookbook and practiced well for some time. I am based in USA but with European ties too.

[Archvaldor]

Dalmatian,
Judging by the level of the question in the first post, you are a real amateur. Better walk along well-trodden roads, with a simple count, or there will be an accident...

I will continue the discussion with you, after asking questions, for example, how the NRS formula works for brocken slugs... Come back in half a year...

p.s. Snyder is right!

Interesting you mention Synder in the same post as NRS. I seem to recall Snyder didn't believe NRS was as groundbreaking as people thought. I think he mentioned that it was similar to trying to use a multi-parameter count.

I have no strong opinion on this but I don't recall ever seeing any one do simulations on NRS and working out the actual gains vs seat-off-the-pants tracking.

[Gramazeka]

If you dig deep into the archives, you'll find some brilliant posts by my friend "alienated". If you compare Snyder and "alienated", it's like comparing Hi-Lo Lite and Cac 2 systems.

[Archvaldor]

If you dig deep into the archives, you'll find some brilliant posts by my friend "alienated". If you compare Snyder and "alienated", it's like comparing Hi-Lo Lite and Cac 2 systems.

Tend to agree though I'm very biased. He was a good friend to me also. Turned a lot of my crazy ideas into actual viable brilliant plays.

To be fair to Snyder not many theorists, even actual geniuses, could keep up with him, he was so far out his wings melted...

[Freightman]

Arch saud

Turned a lot of my crazy ideas into actual viable brilliant plays.

Curious, any of your wild and crazy areas achieve stubborn resistance.

Oh, speaking of wild and crazy ideas (or wild and crazy guys) see links for your viewing pleasure


https://youtu.be/s9xKU8eYCFk?si=1a6zSKh_NipFqlIv


https://youtu.be/AC3kDnHS-k4?si=G0mcQ_SZo4EcRum4

[Archvaldor]

Arch saud
Curious, any of your wild and crazy areas achieve stubborn resistance.

If that is an allusion to something I'm sorry you've lost me.

If you mean it literally: with casinos no. They don't really understand anything weird. Which why I do weird. With the blackjack/ap community yeah a lot.

Oh, speaking of wild and crazy ideas (or wild and crazy guys) see links for your viewing pleasure


https://youtu.be/s9xKU8eYCFk?si=1a6zSKh_NipFqlIv


https://youtu.be/AC3kDnHS-k4?si=G0mcQ_SZo4EcRum4

Ty I'd forgotten these. Young Steve Martin was so brilliant. This is my favourite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-a2QBfFQeA

[Freightman]

If you mean it literally: with casinos no. They don't really understand anything weird. Which why I do weird. With the blackjack/ap community yeah a lot.

Thats what I meant