Dealer asked "how long you been counting cards"

[8675309]

Hi all, at the end of the night last night the dealer asked"how long have you been counting cards". My response was"huh, I don't count cards". Then he gave me the "do you think I'm stupid look". I asked him "how long have you been counting cards" and he said probably a long as you. We said goodnight and I cashed in and went home. I play rated at my local casinos since I'm there so often.
My thinking is that there is no way I can play half hour sessions here and there and actually rack up enough hours in a year to be in the long run. Therefore I play longer sessions between the 4 locals without much cover at all. Again I am thinking that with too much cover you lose your advantage anyway so unless you just want to kill time then it would be pointless. I hate to lose any of my locals but I would hate to lose my money trying to keep them even more.
I just wonder how many times casinos actually know quickly that someone is a counter and do not bother them as long as they don't hit a certain threshold. I'm thinking that it happens often at the $15 and $25 minimum games. After all, being a counter doesn't mean you are good enough or have the money behind you to succeed long term. I guess my point is that I used to think I should go to extremes to try and hide it but now kind of think that they will know anyway if I am there any amount of time so I may as well play and bet correctly and get what I can.

[moo321]

You should have just laughed like the guy was joking with you. Looks less guilty, and less nerdy (casinos think most card counters are nerdy). Dealer might have actually been joking.


Assuming he wasn't joking, and he wasn't a counter himself, then you're doing something really obvious that gives it away. Lips are moving, staring at the cards, playing your hand really slow, etc. This can be fixed by practicing until you can count more quickly and look natural.

[8675309]

You should have just laughed like the guy was joking with you. Looks less guilty, and less nerdy (casinos think most card counters are nerdy). Dealer might have actually been joking.


Assuming he wasn't joking, and he wasn't a counter himself, then you're doing something really obvious that gives it away. Lips are moving, staring at the cards, playing your hand really slow, etc. This can be fixed by practicing until you can count more quickly and look natural.

I play as fast as most any dealer can go. The faster they are then the more I like it. I don't think I look at the cards more than anyone else. To me, it stands out that players come and go all day long losing money while I am there playing the whole time but I just don't see getting anywhere with super short sessions. Thanks

[8675309]

Oddly enough for these days, this place seems to have a few sharp dealers. The guy before him kept talking about counting and I just ignored him.

[moo321]

That's odd. Maybe they just put everyone through a training on how to spot card counters.

[marriedputter]

"How long have you been counting cards?"


How long have you been beating your wife?

[8675309]

That's odd. Maybe they just put everyone through a training on how to spot card counters.

I do not know the guy at all but he said he was barred from playing anywhere in this area. Really though if another counter sits down at your table, you would probably know in 10 minutes tops if he is a counter also so I am sure it did not take much to figure out. Of course I did not admit to it but I am sure he did not buy that. lol

[Freightman]

Really though if another counter sits down at your table, you would probably know in 10 minutes tops if he is a counter also so I am sure it did not take much to figure out.

Over the course of many years, I’ve spotted ace reckoned counters (sometimes before a hand was played), ace neutral counters, ace trackers, shuffle trackers, opposition betters and of course the hundreds of lil old men and ladies with their modest 1-2 spreads being decimated by the house. Sometimes I knew what ace locators were doing without them knowing what I was doing.

There’s a poker player (hope he’s better at poker than he is at blackjack) who also , poorly, counts. Knows his basic reasonably well and has no knowledge of index play.

Now, as to wheather the house knows or doesn’t know if you’re counting or not - in most cases they do - so a copy paste from a post I made last May should explain why the house often lets you go forward

”1. The counter is not good enough and under capitalized to beat the house - let him play
2. The counter is good enough but undercapitalized - let him play
3. The counter is capitalized but not good enough - let him play
4. The counter is both good enough and capitalized - boot him

The house has me pegged at 3 until they don’t