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    Is it fair to say “Beat The Dealer” is the worst scam ever ?

    Hi everyone,
    is it fair to say that “beat the dealer” by professor Thorp is just truly a scam and it is the worst book about blackjack in the history?
    Thorp wrote a book supposedly to teach people how to “beat the dealer” but he in reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    If someone wrote a book teaching people “how to beat cancer” but he himself died of cancer.
    You guys would laugh your a off and call that author a scam artist right ?
    Professor Thorp sold millions copies of his so called Basic Strategy (BS) to the public to follow when he himself knew it was a losing strategy.
    Prof. Thorps BS is actually a disservice to millions of blackjack players around the world because all it did was to teach people how to be a guaranteed loser.
    Unlike Beat the dealer many other USEFUL books by professor Wong, Ken U, Snyder, Don S… these authors actually teach people how to win at the blackjack tabl, so why do us card counters and AP so afraid to call out Thorp’s Beat the dealer for what it really is ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by backmeoff View Post
    Hi everyone,
    is it fair to say that “beat the dealer” by professor Thorp is just truly a scam and it is the worst book about blackjack in the history?
    Thorp wrote a book supposedly to teach people how to “beat the dealer” but he in reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    If someone wrote a book teaching people “how to beat cancer” but he himself died of cancer.
    You guys would laugh your a off and call that author a scam artist right ?
    Professor Thorp sold millions copies of his so called Basic Strategy (BS) to the public to follow when he himself knew it was a losing strategy.
    Prof. Thorps BS is actually a disservice to millions of blackjack players around the world because all it did was to teach people how to be a guaranteed loser.
    Unlike Beat the dealer many other USEFUL books by professor Wong, Ken U, Snyder, Don S… these authors actually teach people how to win at the blackjack tabl, so why do us card counters and AP so afraid to call out Thorp’s Beat the dealer for what it really is ?
    Er....no.

    Thorp did not invent basic strategy he simply refined and publicized it.

    He invented the first winning card counting system, and all other count systems are based on the same principles even though his ten-count is not widely used today.

    Knowledge of basic strategy is an essential foundation of card counting and winning play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backmeoff View Post
    Hi everyone,
    is it fair to say that “beat the dealer” by professor Thorp is just truly a scam and it is the worst book about blackjack in the history?
    Thorp wrote a book supposedly to teach people how to “beat the dealer” but he in reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    If someone wrote a book teaching people “how to beat cancer” but he himself died of cancer.
    You guys would laugh your a off and call that author a scam artist right ?
    Professor Thorp sold millions copies of his so called Basic Strategy (BS) to the public to follow when he himself knew it was a losing strategy.
    Prof. Thorps BS is actually a disservice to millions of blackjack players around the world because all it did was to teach people how to be a guaranteed loser.
    Unlike Beat the dealer many other USEFUL books by professor Wong, Ken U, Snyder, Don S… these authors actually teach people how to win at the blackjack tabl, so why do us card counters and AP so afraid to call out Thorp’s Beat the dealer for what it really is ?
    What's your casino ?
    G Man

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    I wouldn't call it a scam. It's simply an out-of-date, early version, historical reference that brought card counting to the public's eye.

    If you're looking for the biggest scam of historical reference books, it is The Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    I wouldn't call it a scam. It's simply an out-of-date, early version, historical reference that brought card counting to the public's eye.

    If you're looking for the biggest scam of historical reference books, it is The Bible.
    The count system may be out of date but much of the content is even ahead of its time, even now.

    If I was trying to build a bankroll right now and I was stuck in the US then I'd be studying that chapter on end-play real hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backmeoff View Post
    Hi everyone,
    is it fair to say that “beat the dealer” by professor Thorp is just truly a scam and it is the worst book about blackjack in the history?
    Thorp wrote a book supposedly to teach people how to “beat the dealer” but he in reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    If someone wrote a book teaching people “how to beat cancer” but he himself died of cancer.
    You guys would laugh your a off and call that author a scam artist right ?
    Professor Thorp sold millions copies of his so called Basic Strategy (BS) to the public to follow when he himself knew it was a losing strategy.
    Prof. Thorps BS is actually a disservice to millions of blackjack players around the world because all it did was to teach people how to be a guaranteed loser.
    Unlike Beat the dealer many other USEFUL books by professor Wong, Ken U, Snyder, Don S… these authors actually teach people how to win at the blackjack tabl, so why do us card counters and AP so afraid to call out Thorp’s Beat the dealer for what it really is ?
    No
    The Cash Cow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backmeoff View Post
    In reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    Anyone can confirm this?
    Where did you get that "information" ?

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    Only one person has been going around for years calling Thorp and his book a "scam".

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    Drum roll.......
    G Man

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    Thorp.
    First they visited Reno and Lake Tahoe establishments where they tested Thorp's theory at the local blackjack tables. The experimental results proved successful and his theory was verified since he won $11,000 in a single weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    Only one person has been going around for years calling Thorp and his book a "scam".
    That person had a grudge against everyone selling card counting systems not just Thorp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backmeoff View Post
    Hi everyone,
    is it fair to say that “beat the dealer” by professor Thorp is just truly a scam and it is the worst book about blackjack in the history?
    Thorp wrote a book supposedly to teach people how to “beat the dealer” but he in reality he was beaten badly by the dealer at the blackjack table.
    If someone wrote a book teaching people “how to beat cancer” but he himself died of cancer.
    You guys would laugh your a off and call that author a scam artist right ?
    Professor Thorp sold millions copies of his so called Basic Strategy (BS) to the public to follow when he himself knew it was a losing strategy.
    Prof. Thorps BS is actually a disservice to millions of blackjack players around the world because all it did was to teach people how to be a guaranteed loser.
    Unlike Beat the dealer many other USEFUL books by professor Wong, Ken U, Snyder, Don S… these authors actually teach people how to win at the blackjack tabl, so why do us card counters and AP so afraid to call out Thorp’s Beat the dealer for what it really is ?
    Eh, not the worst trolling I've ever seen. I'd give this one a 3/10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secretariat View Post
    Anyone can confirm this?
    Where did you get that "information" ?
    Believe he was initially being beat (variance), but came back turning the weekend into a winner.

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