I'm distraught

[Sundown]

I never thought this could happen to me as I'm so new at this. I was just told by casino personal to leave and they escorted me out. I was told that I'm an advantage player and they don't want my actions, and if I come back it will be trespassing and that they have my pictures etc. I was only up $25 and only cashed in for $100 and it was my first shoe of the day. This is my local casino and now I'm screwed. I have no clue what triggered this but obviously I was counting and I even told the guy I only use basic strategy (wink wink). I asked if I could speak with a manager and he said he was the manager of security etc. Obviously they have some sophisticated software.

[shadowfaxxhs]

database participant or previously caught you, possibly a skilled counter was observing you from the beginning. Very common actually.

[Intermediate]

This is my local casino and now I'm screwed. I have no clue what triggered this but obviously I was counting and I even told the guy I only use basic strategy (wink wink).

They had you pegged based on your recent history. You should think about your last session or two and how you played and how you spread. Were you using a Player's Card? Did they scan your ID at the entrance?

[BJGenius007]

I never thought this could happen to me as I'm so new at this. I was just told by casino personal to leave and they escorted me out. I was told that I'm an advantage player and they don't want my actions, and if I come back it will be trespassing and that they have my pictures etc. I was only up $25 and only cashed in for $100 and it was my first shoe of the day. This is my local casino and now I'm screwed. I have no clue what triggered this but obviously I was counting and I even told the guy I only use basic strategy (wink wink). I asked if I could speak with a manager and he said he was the manager of security etc. Obviously they have some sophisticated software.

What is your spread and table minimal? Is this shoe game or double deck?

[Sundown]

Table minimum was 15, 8 decks. I didn't even get a chance to raise my bet yet as the count didn't warrant but it was gaining in the very positive direction. I told him I was just playing basic Strategy. I did split a pair of sixes against a 5 and hit a double, but heck I was only up $25

[Sundown]

No players card. The security guys says " I don't suppose you're willing to give me your id are you? I was like nope. I haven't played there in a few days since I was sick but prior week or so I've been taking a grand or so in very small increments. It's funny because I was just using that casino to increase my bank roll. Lots of wonging and went just about everyday after work but have taken less than $1,000 at a time. Also, only been cashing in with a $100 and just essentially playing with the houses money. Obviously, if you watch me on the camera you can tell I'm counting as I'm mostly flat betting and wtf I am counting ????????*??. No clue how I was caught today

[Sundown]

You're mostly likely right, but not sure what tipped them off????????*??

[Intermediate]

Lots of wonging and went just about everyday after work but have taken less than $1,000 at a time.

If you were doing that "everyday", I'm sure they would catch on. They just have to run the tape from the start of the shoe and count it down. Doesn't matter how much you're betting or how much you've won. Now you have to start travelling, and hope you're not in OSN.

[Archvaldor]

You're mostly likely right, but not sure what tipped them off????????*??

It shouldn't really be a source of amazement that one of the simplest and most over-analyzed form of advantage play ever is highly detectable.

It is more surprising frankly that any counters continue to get away with it.

[Sundown]

Explain

[Intermediate]

Explain

Your playing at the same time of day (after work) exposed your back counting to probably the same pit crew and surveillance crew. Backcounting is well known to be a way of gaining an advantage. So they had you picked out as an AP before the day you were trespassed, and they likley had a notice out to boot you as soon as you sat down.

[Iwantmoney]

Who is this skilled counter? A fellow player or surveillance?

[Sundown]

Damn Intermediate I think your right. I did lots of back counting in order to grow my bankroll. I didn't think they would catch on since I wasn't cashing in for thousands or taking thousands from them. I guess you don't have to be winning in order for them to flag you.

Would you go back in disguise?