Ten in the hole or no?

[Cacarulo]

Have a peek at 13 and 12 v 10 in an ES10 game. Also look at 13 v 10 in a LS game. Refer to Wong’s Professional Blackjack around page 92 or so.

Recall several years ago ending up at a table with a couple of counters from Vegas in my locale for some kind of work related conference. One if them surrendered 13 v 10 - I told them later they surrendered incorrectly.

edit add - oops answered based on surrender - they’re hits under surrender threshold

The OP is talking about standing, not surrendering.

Sincerely,
Cac

[Sundown]

I screwed up, and have corrected myself. I meant to say 12 V dealers 2 or 3 not T . Normally I would hit that but the indices says to stay in a hot deck.

Sincerely and sorry for the mess up.

[G Man]

Now it make sense !

[Sundown]

Do you think it's the proper play G Man?

[G Man]

Of course, in a shoe game using hi-lo you would stand with the following index:
S17: 12 vs 2 at +4
12 vs 3 at +2
H17: 12 vs 2 at +3
12 vs 3 at +1

Not a KO expert but I think in a 6 decks shoe, you would stand 12 vs 2 and 3 at respectively +2 and -2 using a IRC of -20

[Sundown]

Thanks G man. Those numbers are close enough for me.

[Freightman]

The OP is talking about standing, not surrendering.

Sincerely,
Cac

yes, noticed after I sent - edited

[Cacarulo]

I screwed up, and have corrected myself. I meant to say 12 V dealers 2 or 3 not T . Normally I would hit that but the indices says to stay in a hot deck.

Sincerely and sorry for the mess up.

No problem. Clearly, there was something odd.
Regarding the indices for 8D, S17, KO, they would
be as follows for a 6.5/8 pen and an IRC = -32:

12v2 = -2
12v3 = -7

If you want to use an IRC = 0, simply add 32 to them.

Sincerely,
Cac

[Sundown]

Thanks...I appreciate your help.

[ShipTheCookies]

Next time someone gives that "assume a 10 in the hole" garbage, just bet them $10 on every deal. If a 10 is, pay them $10 and if one isn't, they pay you $10. Watch how fast you win all of their money.

[Sundown]

Lol