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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    The topic of memorization techniques is highly personal. What some find easy, others may find challenging, and vice versa.
    The chip method is a good alternative, but discretion is key. Some people effortlessly maintain two or more side counts.
    It's all a matter of practice. However, before delving into more advanced techniques, it's crucial to master CAC2 first.

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    Ah, yes. In fact I just read about someone's post whom mentioned a using two stacks of 24 chips. I imagined them plucking chips off these two massive towering stacks mid round and building them back to size at shoe's end. But yes, I suppose you could use chips with discretion. Haha. Thanks for the laugh. I have to be less rigid in my thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cacarulo View Post
    That's a very good example of how to use side counts to improve betting efficiency. Years ago, I remember analyzing HO2/A against HO2/A36,
    and the conclusion was that the former outperformed the latter. The explanation is simple: the former has a better BC/BE.

    HO2 ------ 0.9172/0.8826
    HO2/A ---- 0.9798/0.9712
    HO2/A36 -- 0.9759/0.9657

    However, when comparing it to CAC2 and CAC2/A5, the difference is noticeable:

    CAC2 ----- 0.9621/0.9461
    CAC2/A5 -- 0.9829/0.9756

    Anyway, it is not my intention to provide more information about a privately marketed system.
    I just wanted to emphasize the importance of choosing a secondary count.

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    A couple of thoughts. Hi Opt 1 or 2 have laughable betting correlations without the accepted ASC as shown above. I kinda sorta thought that Hi Opt 2 with ASC had higher BC than what you’ve shown above. I kinda sorta think that Hi Opt 2 with both Ace and 7 side count outperforms Hi Opt 2 A36. I’m either right or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    A couple of thoughts. Hi Opt 1 or 2 have laughable betting correlations without the accepted ASC as shown above. I kinda sorta thought that Hi Opt 2 with ASC had higher BC than what you’ve shown above. I kinda sorta think that Hi Opt 2 with both Ace and 7 side count outperforms Hi Opt 2 A36. I’m either right or wrong.
    HO2/A remains superior. The 7 is already at its optimal value.

    Sincerely,
    Cac
    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

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    You use the Hi Opt counts in order to use an ace side count. Unless you're playing 6:5 or some kind of variant, it doesn't make a lot of sense to use an ace neutral count without an ace side count. 6:5 and variants with altered blackjack payouts are an exception because the effect of removal is less, but even then Zen count is generally better and easier since it doesn't have a side count. I think Superfun 21 is the only game I can think of that it would make sense, and that game is almost dead.
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