Zengriffin? what happened to him?

[variance.junky]

I have wondered for a long time what happened with Zen Griffin His real name is Marcus. I see he is banned on another site for a reason I do not know. We met a long time ago in Vegas. Does anyone know actually? is he here as well under another name?

Thanks for helping out,

[Archvaldor]

I have wondered for a long time what happened with Zen Griffin His real name is Marcus. I see he is banned on another site for a reason I do not know. We met a long time ago in Vegas. Does anyone know actually? is he here as well under another name?

Thanks for helping out,

He did time for some kind of telemarketing fraud. https://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0111/6301018a.html *

I banned him from another blackjack forum when I find out he was playing on teams and had suspiciously bad results. This happens all the time in counting teams but when you combine that with his actual criminal record, and the fact he looked sounded behaved and literally actually called himself a Grifter, it was clear enough was enough. I was amazed any one had shared a bankroll with him, his personality was so OTT I didn't take him seriously enough.

He was very entertaining though I must admit. Just don't give him any money.

Really sad thing about Marcus is that he is one of those people that prefer to make a dishonest quarter rather than an honest dollar. He would be a multi-millionaire with those interpersonal skills doing anything legit.

[Norm]

ZenGrifter was banned here and all of his posts suppressed for constant pushing of conspiracy theories among other problems. Some years ago he closed his own site and moved out of Vegas.

[variance.junky]

Hi Norm,
I met him in Vegas. Unfortunately the last time I seen him I gave him $700 ( when I was still in Vegas . That turned out not so well. He was a friendly man though. But after all those year I think so I start to wonder what is actually true about his financial cardcounting career. I wish every human the best though. Everything is choice for both sides of a possible outcome!

I will start a blog here soon and will update my learning curve in poker and blackjack, my mistakes and my restart at counting

Thank for your support and help

VJ

[variance.junky]

I agree anything you said. He was for what I know a good teacher of the game.

[Midwest Player]

Norm, didn't you get the name to his site as he let it lapse. For a long time Moses posted on his site.

[21forme]

A naive AP friend of mine ran across him once. All I said to him was, "Do you still have your wallet?"